魏巍筆下鬆骨峰狙擊戰的實際真相:38軍一個加強連全連犧牲換來消滅不到30名美軍,並未阻礙美二師的撤退

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38軍的一個連在鬆骨峰真的打退2000美軍進攻打死300?實際情況是全連犧牲換來消滅30名美軍,並未阻礙美二師的撤退(轉載天涯)

各位看官先看此文的出處
  
  頑強截擊在鬆骨峰
  http://202.84.17.11/world/htm/20001004/155999.htm
    
  新華網首頁 =國際舞台 =專題報道集 =新華網專題報道
  2000/09
  抗美援朝大回放 
    
    為紀念中國人民誌願軍抗美援朝出國作戰50周年,新華社20多位軍事記者分赴全國各地,尋訪一批健在的戰功卓著的高級將領;新華網特設《戰將訪問記》、《親曆抗美援朝》、《見證重要戰事》等專欄,刊載這組係列專訪。本網站所刊登的新華社及新華網各種新聞﹑信息和各種專題專欄資料,均為新華通訊社版權所有,經協議授權,禁止下載使用。 
  
  請看原文,50年代鼓舞人心的文宣是這樣講述鬆骨峰之戰的
    
    頑強截擊在鬆骨峰
    http://202.84.17.11/world/htm/20001004/155999.htm
    
    在朝鮮的每一天。我都被一些東西感動著,我的思想感情的潮水,在放縱奔流著。它使我想把一切東西,都告訴給我祖國的朋友們。但我最急於告訴你們的,是我思想感情的一段重要經曆,這就是,我越來越深刻地感覺到誰是我們最可愛的人!”這是廣為流傳、激動過億萬人心的通訊《誰是最可愛的人》的開篇。這篇通訊,就是著名作家魏巍戰地采訪了誌願軍第38軍第335團第3連在鬆骨峰戰鬥中那可歌可泣的英雄事跡後寫下的。 
    
    “反擊沒有得逞的美軍又出動8架戰鬥機、8輛坦克、幾十門榴彈炮。。。。。。。300多具屍體和大量趴窩的汽車將幾百輛4輪汽車被阻在公路上不得前進。。。。。。2000餘美軍在32架飛機、18輛坦克、幾十門榴彈炮掩護下,發動第五次衝鋒。。。。。。斃傷其500餘人。。。。。。300多具屍體和大量趴窩的汽車將幾百輛4輪汽車被阻在公路上不得前進”
    
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    我對美軍動用武器裝備和參戰兵力之強感到吃驚,這是在和一個連交手嗎?帶著這些疑問,查了一些資料, 
    
    查了一下美國陸軍紀念50周年的官方網站,
    http://korea50.army.mil/history/index.shtml
    長津湖突圍是個專題,第二師的突圍提都沒提,
    
     
    
    第二師網站上倒是有詳細記載
    http://www.2id.org/kunuri-history.htm 
    
    提到的美軍進攻力量是第二師38步兵團的C連,在一個坦克連(72坦克營的C連),以及後來加入的一個炮兵連的支援下進攻,中國軍隊兵力起初估計是一個加強連,後來認為似乎在一個營以上 
    
    During the early morning hours of 29 November, the Division command post moved to a new location six miles south of Kunu-ri. 
    
    Throughout the morning every unit of the Division was under heavy attack by the numerically superior enemy. At about 1000 hours, the 2d Reconnaissance Company reported an enemy roadblock had been set-up approximately ten miles south of Kunu-ri on the CANARY-Sunchon road, the lifeline of the Division and the only escape route in the Division zone. First estimates placed the strength of the enemy at a reinforced company, At 1240 hours, after the Reconnaissance Company had failed to reduce the block, “C“ Company of the 38th Infantry reinforced by tanks from “C“ Company of the 72d Tank Battalion were on route to assist the 2d Recon. At 1350 hours, a battery of 155 howitzers from the 503d Field Artillery was directed to support the attack on the roadblock. The 38th sent its trains south by way of Anju and they arrived in Sunchon intact. 
    
    ......
    
    Back at the roadblock, frantic efforts to push back the enemy failed. At 1630 hours, Major General Keiser relayed a message for help to IX Corps “Serious roadblock to South. Estimate enemy battalion or more. Air strikes, artillery and infantry company attacks have failed. Road jammed with vehicles prevents movement North or South. Request immediate assistance from the south to relieve situation. Please notify action taken as all infantry elements definitely engaged.“ 
    
    Ten minutes later at 1640 hours, the commanding officer of the 38th Infantry reported his right battalion under attack by the Chinese from the north, northeast, east and south with the Turks unable to hold on his right. At 1655, the 23d Infantry relayed a message to Division headquarters indicating the entire 38th Infantry under attack from the north and northeast and the 3d ROK also under attack. The Turks were giving ground to the east and south. A few minutes passed and the situation in the 38th sector became critical. The Third Battalion was surrounded and attempts were being made to establish a defense on the high ground east of the 38th CP. 
    
    The Turks reported at 1700 hours that their elements which had been withdrawing down the road were under attack and their escape route to Kunu-ri was blocked. 
    
    The roadblock in the south was still “in“ and the enemy force grew stronger., The 23rd and 38th Regiments holding below Kunu-ri were ordered to pull back. The 23rd was to pull back first except for one company which was to guard the bridge over the Kaechon River which flowed just south of Kunu-ri and over which the 38th was required to move. 
    
    The Third Battalion of the 23rd barely escaped annihilation as a burning ammunition truck blocked its escape and forced the remnants to move out by foot, leaving the vehicles behind. 
  
    The 23rd completed its withdrawal by 0130 hours except for the company guarding the bridge. However, the remnants of the Second and Third Battalions of the 38th had not reached the 38th perimeter held by the First Battalion and the 3rd ROK Regiment so Colonel Peploc, the regimental commander, waited until 0430 when all that was left of the two I Corps. battalions had reached safety and the withdrawal was completed. 
    
    Neither of the two regiments would have been able to make their moves had it not been for the exceptionally artillery support on all likely positions and routes the enemy could be using. 
    
    The 3rd ROK Regiment was reported not in position after the two regiments had withdrawn. As it was the only organized force of any strength left in the 38th Regiment, its absence caused great consternation for it was to occupy positions south of the Kaechon on the right of the 23rd and as dawn broke there were no friendly troops on the 23rd’s right flank. Immediately the remnants of the Second and Third Battalions of the 38th were assembled and prepared to occupy positions on the 23rd’s right. South of the mounting confusion, all efforts to break the roadblock met with failure. A crisis faced the 2d Division for annihilation was certain if it stayed in Kunu-ri and the only escape route in its sector was blocked. A request went out to IX Corps for permission to take the Division out of the trap by way of the Kunu-ri Anju-Sinanju Road, still open and offering an escape through the I Corps sector. IX Corps stated it would have to clear the request through I Corps. In the meantime, the shocked and tattered remnants of the 9th Infantry, less the First Battalion, were thrown against the roadblock. The Second and Third Battalions were down to ap-xxx 
    
    In the meantime, the shocked and tattered throughout the night together with the 2d Recon, elements of the 72d Tank Battalion and the remains of the 2d Engineers. 
    
    During the night of 29-30 November an attack on the 2d Division command post was repulsed. 
    
    
    軍事網上的介紹也證實了美軍的出戰人數,
    http://www.unitedcn.com/01ZGZZ/24kangmeiyuanchao/new_page_1813.htm
    “美軍以一個連的兵力,10餘架飛機,6輛坦克”“爾後美軍又增加兵力,以300餘人在猛烈炮火掩護下”這非常接近美軍的參戰人數,可見魏巍的打退2000敵軍的描述實在可信度不高,3連的阻擊實際上沒有阻礙美二師的撤退,美軍並沒有動用全部兵力來試圖解決這股部隊
       
    徐京躍《日出日落三八線》 中的描述可能更加接近事實
    http://www.mypcera.com/book/jun/sunrise/005.htm
    “這個連的官兵全部犧牲了......”
    
    遼沈晚報?http://news.tom.com/1006/20050309-1928634.html
    更證實了當時3連是全部“陣亡”了,而非有7人尚存
    
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    魏巍筆下抗美援朝烈士未陣亡 英雄大連生活30年 
    遼沈晚報??
    
    在“二次戰役”中,胡傳久所在三連的任務是阻止敵人軍車逃跑。三連占領了公路邊一個光禿禿的小山崗,敵人向三連的陣地發動了猛烈的攻擊,三連戰士激戰了8個小時。在戰鬥中,胡傳久用刺刀與敵人展開了肉搏戰,他的腿受了重傷,倒在血泊中不省人事。後來,人們以為這個連的全體將士都已經陣亡了,上級領導授予這個連“鬆骨峰戰鬥特等功臣連”、“英雄部隊”等光榮稱號,而胡傳久也被當成烈士。
    
    
    在多種中方的記錄中,美軍的傷亡都是留下300具屍體,那麽事實呢?
    
    查了權威的美軍傷亡統計網站,http://www.koreanwar.org/html/korean_war_databases.html
    
    檢索1950年11月29日美軍陣亡記錄,直接參戰的美二師38步兵旅當日陣亡隻有30人(這其中還有從下去16:40開始遭到其他中國軍隊攻擊的在內,反狙擊的C連的陣亡人數不知會不會超過20人),而數萬人在多個戰場同時開戰的整個第二師11月29日的陣亡人數也隻有70人(可以查到每個陣亡士兵的姓名),中美的記錄都沒有提到鬆骨峰戰鬥有聯合國軍或南韓軍隊參與,美軍的陣亡隻有幾十人,不知這陣地上300具屍體都是誰的?
    
    美軍30人陣亡的鬆骨峰與此形成鮮明對比的是血戰長津湖從15萬中國軍隊包圍中突圍的陸戰一師當天則有87人陣亡
    
  
    1950年11月29日美陸軍第二師38步兵旅陣亡名單
    
    38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - JAMES ADAMS - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - CHARLES ALBRIGHT - 38 - ART BN (105MM) - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - EARNEST BOMAN - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - GERARD COTTER - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - J DAUGHERTY - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - CHARLES FUSON - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - ROBERT HOLLAND - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - EARL HOLLAND - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - RAY HULSEY - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - FRANK JOHNSON - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - JAMES LARSEN - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - ALFONSO MENDOZA - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - ROBERT MILLER - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - LINUS MITCHELL - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - EDWIN MITCHELL - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - DONALD MORAN - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - BYRON OTWELL - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - FRANKLIN OWENS - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - RICHARD PADEN - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - GARY PARKER - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - CARL PARSONS - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - TROY PENLAND - 38 - ART BN (105MM) - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - CLAUDE RINER - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - JAMES ROSE - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - LEFF ROYAL - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - ROBERT SIGGINS - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - KENNETH SWENSON - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - JACK TAYLOR - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - CECIL WATTERS - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    November 29, 1950 - ROBERT WRIGHT - 38 - INF RGT - 2 INF DIV 
    
  
    
    
    
    
  美二師38步兵旅整個朝鮮戰爭3年中WIA+KIA+MIA(傷+亡+失蹤)為598人(可以查到每個士兵的名字傷亡失蹤情況)http://www.2id.org/2-casnav.htm
  1950年11月29日一天38步兵旅就被“斃傷500餘人”,後來幾百天打仗一個人都沒有傷亡嗎?
  
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  美軍第二師的戰史:
  
   No story of the withdrawal from Kunu-ri will ever be complete. Records of many of the units were either lost or not kept at all. Many of the men who could tell the story have not returned. There were countless instances of in dividual and unit heroism which will forever go unrecognized but without which many thousands more lives would been lost. No one single unit should be singled out for to do so would be an injustice to the others but special mention must be made of the elements of the 2d Engineer Combat Battalion and “A“ Battery, 503d who held the hills near the Division CP while other units moved out. Not a man escaped from the northernmost of the two hills. The men of “A“ Battery fired their massive 155 guns point blank at the onrushing enemy until they were completely overwhelmed. They stayed to the death so that others might escape. 
  
  沒有一個從Kunu-ri撤退 故事會是完整的。許多戰鬥單位的紀錄要麽丟失了要麽根本就沒有保存下來。 許多能講述當時戰鬥情況的人都沒有回來。 一定有不計其數的個人和集體英雄主義事例永遠在沒有被承認的情況下被完全淡忘,但如果不是他們,成千更多的人將喪命。單獨列出一個戰鬥單位的英勇事跡,對其他單位來說是不公平的,但是需要特別提及的是第2工程作戰營和503d A炮兵連的士兵們,當其他部隊撤退的時候,他們堅守靠近師部的山頭。這兩座山頭最北麵的士兵沒有一個回來。A炮兵連的士兵們用他們巨大的155口徑的榴彈炮點射衝上來的敵軍,直到被完全淹沒。 他們堅守到死,以便其他人有機會逃脫。 
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    中國版:
    
    這個連的官兵全部犧牲了
    
    後來,人們以為這個連的全體將士都已經陣亡了,上級領導授予這個連“鬆骨峰戰鬥特等功臣連”、“英雄部隊”等光榮稱號,而胡傳久也被當成烈士。七班長潘誌忠頭被炸傷,鮮血在臉上凝成血冰,但他心中燃燒著仇恨的火焰,口中隻有一名話:“我是共產黨員,不能下去。”當美國兵要跑時,他甩出了最後一顆手榴彈,炸死了逃兵。當他奄奄一息之時,手伸向衣兜,告訴排長: “兜裏有個信封,勝利了,向毛主席報個喜吧!”他閉上了雙眼,留下了一臉的堅毅。僅配屬第3連戰鬥的機槍1連兩個班就有5人被燒傷;陳寶貴排長眼睛被燒得看不見了,仍然鼓勵戰士們:“共產黨員、共青團員們!共產黨的隊伍是經得起考驗的!”朱順發、熊席泉等與美國兵廝打在一起,最後同歸於盡。李玉安負重傷,也被人們誤認為是犧牲了,直至30年後,才重被發現。邢玉喜、嚴佐政刺死幾個美國兵,又與幾個美國兵扭打著滾下山坡。……胡長久從敵屍上摘下4顆手榴彈,打退了衝上來的美軍。當汽油彈在戰士邢玉堂身邊炸開後,他完全被大火吞沒了,就地打滾,可火勢太大,他就帶著呼呼上竄的火苗,撲向美國兵。戰士主動接替。指導員楊少成的子彈打光了,就同美國兵拚刺刀,當好幾個美國兵包圍他時,他臨危不懼,高喊著:“同誌們,守住陣地!”毅然拉響了手榴彈。在這生與死的決戰中,第3連的戰士高喊著:“為指導員報仇!”“為祖國爭光!”“有我們,就有陣地!”紛紛跳出彈坑,殺向美國兵
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  鬆骨峰一戰,即使38軍3連以全連犧牲的代價隻打死3,40名美軍,但是戰略和戰術意義都是巨大的,美軍的戰史也明確趁認中國軍人的頑強,但是用對精神力量過度的吹噓和對後勤武器裝備甚至是士兵生命的漠視,導致後來5次戰役的整個師被圍血染漢江就不稀奇了.50年代吹過也罷,2000年把一篇基本事實吹牛的“鼓舞人心的文宣”堂而皇之得貼在新華社紀念朝鮮戰爭50周年的專題網站,是什麽意思呢?
  
  曆史不是宣傳機器可以隨意塗改的

 

所有跟帖: 

一旦開始研究事實,就會發現,在朝鮮,戰敗的是誌願軍而不是美軍。美軍針對誌願軍的每次作戰行動都達到了目的, -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (799 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:30:09

沒底線的政治宣傳,讓國人為一個又一個虛幻的故事驕傲 -矽穀一水滴- 給 矽穀一水滴 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:35:43

Cannot agree with your points. Because -panlm_- 給 panlm_ 發送悄悄話 panlm_ 的博客首頁 (513 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:44:20

有限戰爭,雙方的目的都有限。但從戰場表現看,毫無疑問是誌願軍打不過美軍而不是相反。 -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (134 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:54:39

Not true! The poorly equipped CVA performed much better. -panlm_- 給 panlm_ 發送悄悄話 panlm_ 的博客首頁 (265 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 09:03:20

他的意思是,如果不是美國總統不讓他進軍鴨綠江,聯合國軍本來可以全殲誌願軍的。 -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (182 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 09:10:22

當年都討論過克拉克日記過,就別強詞奪理 -thrawn- 給 thrawn 發送悄悄話 thrawn 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 10:34:44

美軍從鴨綠江被打回了三八線,美軍勝了能是這個結果嗎? -大米袋- 給 大米袋 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 23:29:24

嗬嗬,美軍從壓路江邊按計劃轉進到漢城,死了一個三星將(據說後來投胎成立了三星公司),撤了一個五星將的總司令職務。 -飛熊- 給 飛熊 發送悄悄話 飛熊 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:41:07

然並卵。美軍全軍順利回到南韓,誌願軍圍殲美軍幾個師的計劃徹底破產。 -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (41 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:47:35

不愧是香港的! -飛熊- 給 飛熊 發送悄悄話 飛熊 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 09:16:10

這是死亡名單,還有失蹤名單呢?目前在朝鮮戰爭中失蹤的仍有10幾萬,這些家屬至今得不到撫恤和陪賞。 -laoyu2010- 給 laoyu2010 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 08:51:03

沒聽說過美軍在朝鮮有10萬失蹤人員的,我估計樓上把南韓失蹤人員算進去了(統計上可能被標為聯合國軍失蹤人員)。 -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (707 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 09:05:16

一滴水最大的問題是不計聯合國軍的總體損失,隻計美軍。我們看看美軍該連(company)指揮官對這次Hellfire Valley -飛熊- 給 飛熊 發送悄悄話 飛熊 的博客首頁 (388 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 09:29:28

共軍喜歡混淆數字有傳統。比如殲滅戰日偽軍一千人,實則數字裏麵有戰鬥力的日軍可能隻有10人 -矽穀一水滴- 給 矽穀一水滴 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 10:13:10

當然是,而且韓軍後期的戰鬥力還在誌願軍之上。但是,既然大家說的是美軍,那韓軍當然就不應該算了。 -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (167 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 11:11:35

韓軍都這麽低厲害聊,還拉著美軍做甚?明擺著說韓軍不行麽? -Freemoon- 給 Freemoon 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 11:52:39

不要斷章取義,我說了是後期的韓軍。是經過美軍嚴格訓練和指揮下的韓國軍隊,不是戰爭前期未經訓練就被拉上戰場的韓國炮灰。 -hkzs- 給 hkzs 發送悄悄話 (143 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 11:57:25

朝鮮宣傳朝鮮戰爭是金日成率領人民軍打下的,閣下敢不服? -矽穀一水滴- 給 矽穀一水滴 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 11:54:18

是啊,那個二等功就是吹出來的或者是偷來的? -puyh- 給 puyh 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2019 postreply 13:32:37

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