TSLA 估值模型

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TSLA這家公司風險很大,但回報也有很大空間。關健就是它能否實現自動駕駛和人型機機器人的長遠目標。投資TSLA必須基於這個信仰,否則最好別長持。

這裏分享一下TSLA 的估值模型。對與TSLA這樣的成長型公司,我們不能僅僅簡單的用明年的PE來估值。在這裏,我用了DCF(discount cash flow)來估算。如果你對DCF不熟悉,可以問chatGPT. 其它的方法比如說用EBITDA會比較激進。我不用EBITDA是想盡量保守一點,同時對TSLA 未來的營業也盡量把目標放低一點

我把它分成2部份

1: 假設TSLA隻是一家EV公司。The purpose here is to come up with a baseline value estimate. 也就是說,如果TSLA股價掉到這裏,那它將是被大大低估。The basic assumptions here

   a: TSLA will grow its EV and energe sales by 22-25% per year until 2029 for a total of 5million cars in 2029. This is a much lower target than the 20M cars Tsla once promised. Also, the global car sales is expected to reach 90M by 2029, so I think 5M cars is a very conservative estimate

  b: TSLA can continue to grow its gross margin and operating margin. One reason TSLA has gone up 30% after last earning report is that its gross margin has improved significantly and people believe TSLA can continue improve it. 這個假設需要在未來的2-4個季度裏去不斷的驗證

  c:  根據這些假設,TSLA 2029 年的EPS大概是$10 per share, 5 年EPS 平均增速32%。我們可以保守的給它PE32 (也就是說 PEG= 1),如此下來 TSLA股價大概在2029會達到 $320  

2: 第二部份我們把RoboTaxi的業務加上

   a: It is very hard to estimate the RoboTaxi business potential, Here I just throw some rough estimate. But looking at the final number, it suggest somewhere around $12B RoboTaxi revenue for Tsla in 2029. I think this number is "conservative", considering Uber+lyft alone is expected to generate close to $100B revenue from ride sharing by 2029.

  b; I did put a much high operating margin for RoboTaxi, starting from 50% and grow to 75%, given this is a software business. This is still lower than optimistic wall street estimate of 80%. But i think this number is a bit high. However, since my revenue estimate is very conservative, hopefully, these 2 cancel each other.

  c: 真正的RoboTaxi商業模式其實都在瞎猜。但我覺得,如果TSLA在2029年連Uber+lyft的1/10都做不到,那這個業務也不會有前途的。

  d: 如果我們把RoboTaxi這部份加上去,TSLA在2029年的EPS大概是$13 per share, 5 年EPS 平均增速40%。基於這個假設,我把它的PE設在50 (PEG = 1.25)。如此下來 TSLA股價大概在2029會達到 $650  

終和起來,TSLA股價大概在2029 最保守估價$320,但很有可能達到 $650。利用DCF model,我們假設discount rate 是15%,這樣的話TSLA在2024年的價值應該在$160 到 $320 區間。$160 就是你不太相信TSLA會在RoboTaxi 上成功。$320 則是你相信在2029年TSLA能夠打造出一定規模的RoboTaxi 業務。

What happened after 2029, well, Optimus will be the next growth stimulus that provides another 2x-5x value creation. That one is so far fetched so I decide not to estimate it.

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三哥,TLT眼看著就要90了,可以抄底了嗎? -伯克希爾哈薩維- 給 伯克希爾哈薩維 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 12:33:50

yeah, I am buying some 20Y bond all the way to 5.0% yield -三心三意- 給 三心三意 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 12:47:48

Regarding TLT, 我們要從大局考慮。。。 -三心三意- 給 三心三意 發送悄悄話 (305 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 12:54:18

肯定要降息 -伯克希爾哈薩維- 給 伯克希爾哈薩維 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 14:30:51

牛X! -方圓9888- 給 方圓9888 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 14:59:55

TSLA屬於結果清晰, 路徑不明的那種。。。 buy and hold最終會獲得巨大的匯報 -gohigh- 給 gohigh 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 16:40:55

I think the PE of 32 and 50 is a bit high for 2029 -aloevera- 給 aloevera 發送悄悄話 (109 bytes) () 11/03/2024 postreply 23:15:57

Yeah, EV only PE could be at risk if TSAL growth slow -三心三意- 給 三心三意 發送悄悄話 (388 bytes) () 11/04/2024 postreply 07:35:19

I am ok with PEG, the RoboTaxi growth is doable after 2029 -aloevera- 給 aloevera 發送悄悄話 (124 bytes) () 11/04/2024 postreply 09:18:16

Actually, forward NVDA growth is slowing down dramatically -三心三意- 給 三心三意 發送悄悄話 (94 bytes) () 11/04/2024 postreply 11:48:39

I remember your model assumes about 52% growth, while mine -aloevera- 給 aloevera 發送悄悄話 (178 bytes) () 11/04/2024 postreply 14:50:35

NVDA growth in 2025 still very good. Risky after 2025 -三心三意- 給 三心三意 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/04/2024 postreply 20:41:00

謝謝好分享, 為啥沒有TESLA能源這塊呢? -NewLeaf2021- 給 NewLeaf2021 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/04/2024 postreply 07:06:19

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