20230422 玫瑰姐妹會訪談柯博拉-“光之門戶開啟”

柯博拉訪談｜20230422 玫瑰姐妹會訪談柯博拉-“光之門戶開啟”

2023年4月24日摘要

在這次采訪中，柯博拉和黛布拉，玫瑰行星網絡姐妹會的領導者，討論了光之門戶是如何開啟的，是我們一生中最強大的開啟！他們討論了盡可能多的人參與即將到來的全球大規模冥想的重要性

Sisterhood of the Rose organized an interview with Cobra about the importance of the Portal of Light Activation taking place on May 1st, 2023.
 

玫瑰姐妹會在2023年5月1日組織了一次關於光之門戶開啟重要性的采訪。
 

In this interview, Cobra and Debra, a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network, discuss how the Portal of Light Activation is literally the most powerful activation of our lifetimes! They discuss the importance of as many people as possible participating in the upcoming global mass meditation on May 1st at 5:06 pm UTC to reach critical mass so that these ultra-powerful energies coming through this rare portal will be anchored in the most balanced and harmonious way possible ... and what could be the consequences if critical mass is not achieved.
 

在這次采訪中，柯博拉和黛布拉，玫瑰行星網絡姐妹會的領導者，討論了光之門戶是如何開啟的，是我們一生中最強大的開啟！他們討論了盡可能多的人參與即將到來的全球大規模冥想的重要性，在5月1日世界協調時間下午5:06達到臨界質量，以便這些超級強大的能量通過這個罕見的門戶將錨定在最平衡和和諧的方式可能... 以及如果臨界質量沒有達到的後果是什麽。
 

It's important that as many people as possible participate on May 1st, so please spread the word!
 

盡可能多的人參加5月1日的活動是很重要的，所以請把這個消息傳播出去！
 

For more information about this important activation, please visit
 

有關這項重要活動的詳情，請瀏覽
 

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2023/04/portal-of-light-activation-on-may-1st-at-506-pm-utc.html
 

This interview is Part 1 of a two-part series; Part 2 will be released sometime next month so stay tuned for that!
 

這次采訪是一個兩部分係列的第1部分; 第2部分將在下個月的某個時候發布，所以請繼續關注！
 

 

You can listen to the interview on the Sisterhood of the Rose YouTube channel here:
 

你可以點擊這裏收聽"玫瑰姐妹會"YouTube 頻道的采訪:
 

Sisterhood of the Rose Interview with Cobra: "Portal of Light Activation"

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Below is the transcript of the interview:
 

以下是采訪的文字記錄:
 

Debra: Hello, my name is Debra, and I'm a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network. Today I once again have the pleasure to speak with Cobra. Cobra is the chief intel provider for the resistance movement, where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog, 2012portal.blogspot.com. Welcome, Cobra, and thank you for doing this interview.
 

黛布拉:你好，我叫黛布拉，我是玫瑰行星網絡姐妹會的領導者。今天我再次有幸與柯博拉談話。柯博拉是抵抗運動的主要情報提供者，他在自己的博客2012portal.blogspot.com 上提供重要的行星和銀河信息。歡迎，柯博拉，謝謝你接受采訪。
 

Cobra:Thank you for the invitation. It's really a great opportunity to deepen our connection with a portal which is coming very soon.
 

柯博拉：謝謝你的邀請。這真的是一個很好的機會來加深我們與一個即將到來的門戶的聯係。
 

Debra: Yes! This very important portal – I know we have a lot to talk about – but this Portal of Light activation is of primary importance, along with the global mass meditation that will be taking place during this alignment on May 1st, 2023 coming up. So we've actually decided to do this interview in two parts. The first part that we are doing today will focus primarily on discussing this very important Portal of Light activation, and then next month for the second part, we'll discuss the results of this activation as well as many other topics of interest to people. So let's get started.
 

黛布拉:是的！這個非常重要的門戶——我知道我們有很多要談的——但是這個光之門戶的開啟是首要的重要的，隨著全球大眾冥想將在2023年5月1日這個排列期間發生。所以我們決定把這次采訪分成兩部分。我們今天所做的第一部分主要是討論這個非常重要的光之門戶的開啟，然後下個月的第二部分，我們將討論這個開啟的結果以及許多其他人們感興趣的話題。我們開始吧。
 

Cobra, you have stated that this Portal of Light activation will bring the energies of the Age of Aquarius to the next level, and that this is literally the most powerful activation of our lifetime. So to start out, would you please explain to our audience what exactly is the Portal of Light activation?
 

柯博拉，你已經說過，這個光之門戶的開啟將把水瓶座時代的能量帶到下一個層次，而且這確實是我們一生中最強大的開啟。首先，請你向觀眾們解釋一下光之門戶的開啟到底是什麽？
 

Cobra:Okay. This is, I would say, the first major step that we are taking towards our final liberation. Everything until now was just preparation. Everything until now was just a rehearsal, but now we are getting into some serious activity from the Galactic Central Sun. We are getting into some serious shifting of the cosmic cycles. And this is, I will say, the first real step that we're taking right now. So this is energetically going to be huge. It's going to set the course of the liberation process for this planet on a much higher level.
 

柯博拉：好的。我想說，這是我們朝著最終解放邁出的第一大步。直到現在，一切都隻是準備。直到現在，一切都隻是一次彩排，但是現在我們正在進入一些來自銀河中央太陽的嚴重活動。我們正在進入宇宙周期的某種嚴重變化。我要說，這是我們現在真正邁出的第一步。所以從能量上來說，這將是巨大的。它將為這個星球的解放進程設定一個更高的層次。
 

Debra: Wow. You've mentioned that this activation comes at the moment of the completion of a very powerful cycle. Is this the current cosmic cycle of 13 billion years that you've previously written about that will be coming to an end? And if so, what does that mean?
 

黛布拉:哇。您已經提到，這個開啟來自於一個非常強大的周期完成的時刻。這就是你之前所寫的130億年的宇宙周期即將結束嗎？如果是這樣，那意味著什麽？
 

Cobra:No, it's another cycle that I'm not…it's not the purpose to talk about. So it's not this cosmic cycle. There is another cycle which is ending basically a few days before May 1st.
 

柯博拉：不，這是另一個周期，我不是... ... 這不是談論的目的。所以不是這個宇宙循環。另一個周期基本上在5月1日前幾天結束。
 

Debra: Interesting, okay. So you've indicated that this activation is a demarcation point when the energy from the Galactic Center will finally begin to flow toward the surface of the planet with great force, which is wonderful to hear. Now, we understand that at the time of the Event, it will be Source who sends the solar flash through our Galactic Center, but for this initial flow of energy from the Galactic Center on May 1st, is it also Source initiating it? Will our planet be able to receive and be in contact with the Source energy for the very first time?
 

黛布拉:有意思。所以你們已經指出這種開啟是一個分界點當來自銀河係中心的能量最終開始以巨大的力量流向行星表麵，這聽起來很美妙。現在，我們知道在事件發生的時候，是源頭將太陽閃光發送到我們的銀河係中心，但是對於5月1日來自銀河係中心的初始能量流來說，它也是源頭發起的嗎？我們的星球能夠第一次接收並接觸到源頭能量嗎？
 

Cobra:The Source will initiate this energy, but then it'll be downgraded and downplayed to the level that this planetary environment can accept and absorb. So we are not at a point yet to receive energy directly from the Source, but this is actually a good step towards that.
 

柯博拉：源頭會啟動這個能量，但是之後它會被降級，降低到這個行星環境可以接受和吸收的水平。所以我們還沒有達到直接從源頭接收能量的地步，但這實際上是朝著那個方向邁出的很好的一步。
 

Debra: Okay, so it will be like a buffered energy.
 

黛布拉:好的，所以它會像一個緩衝能量。
 

Cobra:Yes. Yes.
 

柯博拉：是的，是的。
 

Debra: Our last big mass meditation was the Divine Intervention activation that took place on the December 2021 solstice, in which we meditated for Divine Intervention and First Contact with benevolent galactic beings. So, did the success of that meditation have anything to do with the opening of this immense energetic portal on May 1st? Or what about the monthly full Moon meditations that we continue to do for divine intervention? Are they helping to create this powerful flow of energy that we are about to experience? Because it sure feels like there could be some divine intervention taking place!
 

黛布拉:
我們上一次大規模的冥想是發生在2021年12月至日的神聖幹預活動，在那次冥想中，我們為神聖幹預和與仁慈的星係生命的第一次接觸進行了冥想。那麽，那次冥想的成功與5月1日這個巨大的能量門戶的開啟有關係嗎？或者說，我們繼續為神聖的幹預而進行的每月一次的滿月冥想又是怎麽回事？它們是否有助於創造我們即將經曆的這種強大的能量流？因為它確實感覺到可能有一些神聖的幹預正在發生
 

Cobra:The Divine Intervention activation in December 2021 was actually the third in the row of meditations that were preparing for the initialization of the Age of Aquarius. And the astrological positioning for the activation in December 2021 is in a way similar to what we're going to experience now, and we are already experiencing it. So this is another step deeper into activating the Age of Aquarius. So all that was just preparation for what we are experiencing now. All those meditations, all three of those activations for the Age of Aquarius and all the full Moon meditations since then, were preparing us for this step. And the conditions for the direct divine intervention need to be ready, the situation needs to be safe, the situation needs to be balanced enough, and this hasn't happened yet, but we are getting closer to that.
 

柯博拉：2021年12月的神聖幹預激活實際上是為水瓶座時代的初始化做準備的那一排冥想中的第三個。而2021年12月的激活的星象定位在某種程度上與我們現在要經曆的相似，而且我們已經在經曆了。所以這是激活水瓶座時代的另一個更深入的步驟。所以所有這些隻是為我們現在所經曆的做準備。所有這些冥想，所有三個水瓶座時代的激活，以及此後所有的滿月冥想，都是在為我們這一步做準備。而直接的神聖幹預的條件需要準備好，情況需要安全，情況需要足夠的平衡，這還沒有發生，但我們越來越接近於此。
 

Debra: Okay, good. Well, we like the idea of getting closer to all of that. Since the flash of cosmic love energies for this Portal of Light activation will be much more powerful than the flash which reached the Earth from the M87 galaxy during the AION portal activation in 2013, and also the flash which happened during the final Age of Aquarius activation in 2020, what can people expect to feel during and after this activation, especially for those who are meditating? Is it possible that powerful emotional healing and energetic healing will occur during this meditation?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。我們喜歡接近這一切的想法。既然這次光之門戶開啟的宇宙愛的能量閃光將比2013年 AION 門戶開啟時從 M87星係到達地球的閃光強大得多，也比2020年最後一次水瓶座時代開啟時發生的閃光強大得多，那麽在這次開啟期間和之後，人們還能期望感受到什麽，尤其是對那些正在冥想的人來說？有沒有可能在這次冥想中發生強大的情緒療愈和能量療愈？
 

Cobra:Each person meditating will have his or her own individual experience, which will be quite different based on their level of evolvement, based on their personality structure and level of readiness to receive such energies. And some people might experience quite powerful emotional, spiritual, and healing situations and experiences. Some people have already experienced that in the past activations. And this time it is expected to be even stronger because the flash, which happens exactly during the activation, is expected to be stronger.
 

柯博拉：每個冥想的人都會有他或她自己的個人體驗，根據他們的進化水平，根據他們的人格結構和接受這些能量的準備程度，這些體驗將是非常不同的。有些人可能會經曆相當強大的情感，精神和治愈的情況和經驗。有些人在過去的開啟中已經經曆過了。這一次，它預計將更強，因為閃光，這發生在開啟期間，預計將更強。
 

Debra: Now, already a year ago in one of your posts, you alluded to the opening of a huge energy portal on the surface of the planet that would take place in late April/early May of 2023, indicating at that time that it will definitely be the strongest energetic event in the last few decades. So will the strength of this event, this flash, is it possible that it could create a Carrington-type event, which we understand to be a massive geomagnetic storm? Could that occur during this May 1st activation, or could any other physical effects be witnessed?
 

黛布拉:現在，一年前，在你的一篇文章中，你提到將於2023年4月底/5月初在地球表麵打開一個巨大的能量門戶，這表明那時它肯定會是過去幾十年中最強大的能量事件。那麽，這次事件的強度，這次閃光，有沒有可能產生一次卡林頓式的事件，我們認為是一次巨大的磁暴？這可能發生在5月1日的開啟期間，或者可以看到任何其他物理效應？
 

Cobra:At this point, it is expected to be just an energetic event, there are no expectations for a physical manifestation like a Carrington event. Actually, a Carrington-type event would not be welcome at this point, it's not the highest purpose for this to happen. The Light Forces are still buffering the activity of the sun to a certain degree with the Dyson spheres because a Carrington-type event right now would take down the electrical grid, would take down the internet, and this is not what the Light Forces want at this point.
 

柯博拉：在這一點上，預計它隻是一個能量事件，沒有期望像卡林頓事件的物理表現。事實上，卡林頓類型的事件在這一點上是不受歡迎的，這不是發生這種事件的最高目的。光明勢力仍然在某種程度上用戴森球體來緩衝太陽的活動，因為現在卡林頓式的事件會毀掉電網，會毀掉互聯網這不是光明勢力想要的。
 

Debra: Are those Dyson spheres, are they completed yet? I know they were initiated.
 

黛布拉:那些戴森球體，它們完成了嗎? 我知道它們已經啟動了。
 

Cobra:They are completed.
 

柯博拉：他們完成了。
 

Debra: They are completed, okay, good to know. You've indicated that this pulse will actually create an energetic upgrade for the whole planet. Will this energetic upgrade finally dissolve the black hole quantum anomaly around Earth and reactivate the Ascension process for this planet through the positive spiritual energy from the Buddhic plane? What type of cleansing will this energy do?
 

黛布拉:他們完成了，好的，很高興知道。你已經表明這個脈衝實際上將為整個星球創造一個能量升級。這個能量提升是否會最終消除地球周圍的黑洞量子異常，並通過來自佛教層麵的正麵靈性能量重新開啟這個星球的揚升過程？這種能量將做什麽類型的淨化？
 

Cobra:Okay, I am not allowed to speak about the direct effects of this energy on different exotic technologies. But definitely after the activation, I will issue a report of what has happened and what has been cleared. But definitely this energy will clear a lot of anomaly, a lot of negative technologies, a lot of what has been here for thousands and thousands of years. A lot of quarantine structure, which has been in place for the last 26,000 years. A lot of that will be removed.
 

柯博拉：好的，我不被允許談論這種能量對不同的異國技術的直接影響。但肯定的是，在激活之後，我將發布一份報告，說明發生了什麽，哪些被清除了。但肯定的是，這種能量將清除很多異常現象，很多負麵的技術，很多已經在這裏存在了幾千年和幾千年的東西。大量的隔離結構，在過去的26000年裏一直存在。大量的東西將被清除。
 

Debra: Wow, fantastic. Okay, good. Does this mean that the tachyons present in large numbers and space will finally be able to surge massively inside our atmosphere until they reach the surface population improving the energetic well-being of humans to some extent? Is this precisely the energetic upgrading of our planet you're talking about, or that at least what you can tell us about at this time?
 

黛布拉:哇，太棒了。好的，很好。這是否意味著大量存在於空間中的超光子最終將能夠在我們的大氣層中大規模激增，直到它們到達地表人口，在某種程度上改善人類的能量福祉？這就是你所說的地球能量的升級，或者至少你現在能告訴我們的？
 

Cobra:The tachyons will not be able to reach the surface of the planet yet because the tachyons will only be able to completely reach the surface of the planet at the moment of the Event when the last remnant of the veil is removed.
 

柯博拉：超光速粒子還不能到達行星表麵因為超光速粒子隻有在事件發生的那一刻才能完全到達行星表麵當最後的遺跡被揭開的時候。
 

Debra: Will there be any upgrade because of this activation with tachyon chambers or using tachyonized products?
 

黛布拉:會不會因為超光速粒子室的開啟或者使用超光速產品而升級呢？
 

Cobra:Yes, tachyon chambers will receive an upgrade, they will become more powerful, more effective. Also tachyon products that will be tachyonized after that moment will be actually, it'll be an upgrade for all the tachyonized technology.
 

柯博拉：是的，超光速粒子室將得到升級，它們將變得更強大，更有效。在那一刻之後被超光速粒子化的超光速粒子產品也將成為現實，它將是所有超光速技術的升級。
 

Debra: Oh, good. Okay, good to know. Does the Portal of Light activation initiate the true terminal process of purification of anomalies leading to apocatastasis, which is the moment when all quantum and subquantum anomaly will be cleared and all evil consciousness either transformed into the light or annihilated in the Central Sun…in other words, the Event? Would you say this is like a pre-Event?
 

黛布拉:哦，太好了。好的，很高興知道。光之門戶的開啟是否啟動了淨化異常導致末世的真正終極過程，也就是所有量子和亞量子異常將被清除的時刻，所有邪惡意識要麽轉化為光，要麽在中央太陽中湮滅... 換句話說，事件？你覺得這是預演嗎？
 

Cobra:I would say this is a trigger, it is a demarcation point. This is a trigger which ends a certain phase, a certain cycle, and actually initiates, I would say, the last phase before the Event.
 

柯博拉：我會說這是一個觸發器，它是一個分界點。這是一個觸發器，它結束了一個特定的階段，一個特定的周期，並且實際上啟動了，我會說，事件之前的最後一個階段。
 

Debra: Okay, good. Now, for the first time in the history of global meditations, the critical mass to be reached is not the determining criterion for the cosmic energy pulse to reach the planet's surface; for as you've said, whether the critical mass is reached or not, these ultra-powerful energies from the Galactic Center will reach the surface of the planet anyway – which actually shows the extent of this impulse. But nevertheless, it is essential that we absolutely reach the necessary critical mass of 144,000 people meditating on that day, in order to anchor this incoming energy in a balanced way, to ensure the fastest and most harmonious transition for the planet and to create the energetic upgrade. Now without critical mass, the power of these energies can manifest in a much more chaotic and disharmonious way. So the critical mass determines HOW this energy is going to be anchored on the surface of the planet, either in a balanced way or in a disharmonious way. And we naturally want it to be anchored in the most balanced way possible, both for the operations of the Light Forces and for the safety and wellbeing of the surface population. So, Cobra, would you elaborate a bit more about the impacts of reaching critical mass or the consequences if we do not?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。現在，在全球冥想史上第一次，達到臨界質量並不是宇宙能量脈衝到達行星表麵的決定性標準; 因為正如你所說，不管達到臨界質量與否，這些來自銀河中心的超強能量無論如何都會到達行星表麵——這實際上顯示了這種脈衝的程度。然而，至關重要的是，我們必須在那一天絕對達到144000人冥想的必要臨界數量，以便以平衡的方式錨定這種輸入的能量，確保地球最快和最和諧的過渡，並創造能量升級。現在沒有臨界質量，這些能量的力量可以以一種更加混亂和不和諧的方式表現出來。因此，臨界質量決定了這種能量將如何錨定在行星表麵，要麽以一種平衡的方式，要麽以一種不和諧的方式。我們當然希望它能以最平衡的方式固定下來，這既是為了光明勢力的行動，也是為了地表居民的安全和福祉。那麽，柯博拉，你能詳細說明一下達到臨界質量的影響還是如果我們不達到臨界質量的後果？
 

Cobra:Okay. If we reach the critical mass, as I said before, we will have a much more harmonious transition, it'll actually accelerate also the transition itself. So I would say with reaching the critical mass, we will be on the optimal timeline. If we do not reach the critical mass, we will have more chaos, which will reflect both in geopolitical situations, it will reflect in financial markets. It will reflect in individual life situations of people on the surface of the planet.
 

柯博拉：好的。如果我們達到臨界質量，就像我之前說的，我們將有一個更加和諧的過渡，它實際上也會加速過渡本身。所以我想說，達到臨界質量後，我們將處於最佳時間線上。如果我們沒有達到臨界點，我們將麵臨更多的混亂，這將反映在地緣政治局勢中，也將反映在金融市場中。它將反映在地球表麵人們的個人生活狀況中。
 

Debra: Well, that right there is motivation to meditate on the 1st of May! 20 minutes of your time is very well worth it, I would say. And of course, spread the word, of course. So when we meditate for the Portal of Light activation on May 1st, will we serve as breakthrough energy transmitters at the time of activation so that these ultra-powerful energies from the Galactic Center can reach the surface in a most balanced and harmonious way?
 

黛布拉:嗯，這就是在5月1日冥想的動機！我得說，你20分鍾的時間非常值得。當然，還要散播消息。因此，當我們在5月1日冥想開啟光之門戶時，我們是否會在開啟時充當突破性的能量傳送器，以便這些來自銀河係中心的超強能量能夠以最平衡、最和諧的方式到達地表？
 

Cobra:Exactly. This is a very good description of what will happen.
 

柯博拉：沒錯。這是對將要發生的事情的一個很好的描述。
 

Debra: Okay, good. We are those energy transmitters. What are your suggestions of how we might prepare ourselves for this to be the most effective?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。我們就是那些能量傳送器。你對我們如何做好準備，使這項工作最為有效有什麽建議？
 

Cobra:I would say the most important thing is to make sure that you will not be disturbed, that you have created a safe and sacred space for this meditation. And of course to spread the word to reach as many people as possible.
 

柯博拉：我想說最重要的是確保你不會被打擾，你已經為這次冥想創造了一個安全和神聖的空間。當然還要把消息傳播給盡可能多的人。
 

Debra: Absolutely. You had also mentioned, you did a recent interview with We Love Mass Meditation and you mentioned the benefits of being in water or near water, or possibly on a mountaintop. Would you speak to why those are so powerful?
 

黛布拉:當然。你還提到，你最近接受了我們愛大眾冥想的采訪，你提到了在水中或水邊，或者可能在山頂上的好處。你能解釋一下為什麽它們如此強大嗎？
 

Cobra:Okay. Being near water is, if you are near water, near the ocean or near a lake or near a river, you will be able to transmit that energy of the portal directly throughout the planet because water is a very good transmitter of energies of light. Also, being on a top of a mountain creates a good connection with the sky, and then you are acting as a very effective transmitter for those energies as well.
 

柯博拉：好的。靠近水，如果你靠近水，靠近海洋或者靠近湖泊或者靠近河流，你將能夠直接將門戶的能量傳輸到整個星球，因為水是一個非常好的光能傳輸器。此外，在山頂上創建一個良好的連接與天空，然後你作為一個非常有效的發射器，這些能量以及。
 

Debra: Is it because of being in nature? Or, with the concept of water, if someone doesn't have access to, let's say, a lake or an ocean or a river, would taking a bath have that same effect or at least help?
 

黛布拉:是因為身處大自然嗎？或者，根據水的概念，如果有人沒有接觸到，比如說，一個湖泊，一片海洋或者一條河流，洗個澡會有同樣的效果或者至少有幫助嗎？
 

Cobra:It would have some effect, but not the same. But I would say most people can get to real, natural body of water if they take a little bit of effort.
 

柯博拉：會有一些效果，但不一樣。但是我想說，大多數人隻要稍微努力一點，就能到達真正的、自然的水域。
 

Debra: Okay, good to keep in mind. Will the positive impact of this activation increase exponentially based on the number of people meditating at the exact moment on May 1st? Meaning that the more people that participate, the more positive and harmonious the results will be?
 

黛布拉:好的，記住了。這種開啟的積極影響是否會根據5月1日那一刻冥想的人數呈指數增長？也就是說，參與的人越多，結果就越積極和諧？
 

Cobra:I would not say exponentially, it's a very complicated equation, but I would say the more people we have, obviously the more effective it will be.
 

柯博拉：我不會說是指數級的，這是一個非常複雜的方程式，但我會說，我們的人越多，顯然就會越有效。
 

Debra: Okay, good to know. So let's go for a million or more meditators on that day! Now we recently did a booster meditation to help manifest critical mass on May 1st. Would it be beneficial for people to continue to do this booster meditation daily until the time of the activation on May 1st?
 

黛布拉:好的，很高興知道。因此，讓我們在那一天進行一百萬或更多的冥想！現在，我們最近做了一個加強冥想，以幫助在5月1日顯化臨界質量。對於人們來說，繼續每天進行這種強化冥想直到5月1日開啟為止是否有益？
 

Cobra:That is actually a good idea, and those who feel so guided can use that booster meditation to increase the numbers as well.
 

柯博拉：這實際上是個好主意，那些感覺如此被引導的人也可以利用加強冥想來增加數量。
 

Debra: Okay. Was that booster successful?
 

黛布拉:好的。助推冥想成功了嗎？
 

Cobra:Yes, it was very good. Actually, we noticed some spike in activity preparing for the meditation, for the main meditation. So it was quite effective.
 

柯博拉：是的，非常好。事實上，我們注意到一些活動在為冥想做準備，為主要的冥想做準備。所以很有效。
 

Debra: Fantastic. You mentioned in your recent interview that using a cintamani stone during the meditation is definitely the most powerful tool that you can use to ground and channel this energy. Does using more than one cintamani stone magnify that energy even more? And will the galactic pulse on May 1st actually flow through our cintamani stones?
 

黛布拉:太棒了。你在最近的采訪中提到，在冥想過程中使用如意寶珠絕對是最有力的工具，你可以使用它來打磨和引導這種能量。是否使用一個以上的仙人掌石放大能量甚至更多？5月1日的銀河脈衝真的會流經我們的如意寶珠嗎？
 

Cobra:Yes, of course. Using more than one cintamani stone does magnify the energy, and yes, the energy of the galactic pulse will flow directly through your cintamani stones.
 

柯博拉：是的，當然。使用一個以上的如意寶珠確實放大了能量，是的，銀河脈衝的能量將直接流經你的如意寶珠。
 

Debra: Beautiful. And you also mentioned in that interview that this energetic upgrade will begin to reactivate again the Lightworker grid on the surface of the planet. So when you say "again", when was the last time the Lightworker grid was activated, and what effect could Lightworkers expect from this reactivation of the grid?
 

黛布拉:真漂亮。你們也在那次采訪中提到，這個能量升級將開始重新開啟地球表麵的光工作者網格。所以當你說"再一次"時，光之工作者網格最後一次被開啟是什麽時候，光之工作者期望從這個網格的重新開啟中得到什麽效果？
 

Cobra:The Lightworker grid was, I would say, partially activated in the last decade or so before it was almost completely destroyed or collapsed in the last few years, because there was simply too much darkness, too many attacks, and the Lightworkers were not willing or able to hold the light.
 

柯博拉：我想說，光之工作者網格在過去十年左右的時間裏被部分開啟，直到最近幾年幾乎完全被摧毀或崩潰，因為有太多的黑暗，太多的攻擊，光之工作者不願意或者不能夠持有光。
 

Debra: And so what effect could Lighworkers expect when this grid is reactivated?
 

黛布拉:那麽當這個網格被重新開啟時，光之工作者能期待什麽樣的效果呢？
 

Cobra:There will be more light. People will begin to reconnect again. They will begin to hold the light again. They will begin to participate in Lightworker activities again, there will be a renewed hope and a renewed activity.
 

Debra: Okay, good. You also said that much more contact between Lightworkers and Beings of Light is expected. Are you referring to telepathic contact, increased intuition, or do you mean actual physical contact? And you also mentioned the opportunity for the underground Kingdom of Light, the Agarthan network, and the Resistance Movement to have more influence on what's happening on the surface of the planet. What will that influence look like?
 

黛布拉:會有更多的光。人們會重新聯係起來。他們將重新掌握光明。他們將再次開始參與光之工作者的活動，將會有一個新的希望和一個新的活動。好的，很好。你也說過更多的光之工作者和光之存有之間的接觸是可以期待的。你指的是心靈感應，增強的直覺，還是實際的身體接觸？你還提到了地下光明王國，阿加森網絡，以及抵抗運動對地球表麵發生的事情產生更大影響的機會。這種影響會是什麽樣的呢？
 

Cobra:Yes. First, there will be more, I would say, energetic and also telepathic contact with Beings of Light. There will be more intuition, there will be visions, dreams, prophetic dreams even. There will be a lot of inspiration, spiritual inspiration. I am not expecting much physical contact at this point yet, but I would say that underground Beings of Light will become more active. They will become more involved again in the surface operations. This is, of course, still classified at this point what they will do, but they are also preparing for this activation, and they are already participating in the initial activities, both below the surface and in some other locations as well.
 

柯博拉：是的。首先，將會有更多的，我會說，能量和心靈感應與光之存有的接觸。會有更多的直覺，會有幻覺，夢想，甚至預言性的夢想。會有很多靈感，精神上的靈感。我並不期望在這一點上有太多的身體接觸，但我想說的是，地下的光之存有將變得更加活躍。他們將再次更多地參與到地麵行動中來。當然，在這一點上他們將要做什麽仍然是分類的，但是他們也在為這次開啟做準備，他們已經參與了最初的活動，不僅在表麵之下，而且在其他一些地方也是如此。
 

Debra: Very good to hear. Let's talk about the astrology of this Portal of Light activation. Of key importance was the return of Pluto into Aquarius on March 23rd. For the first time, after more than 200 years, which opened this portal of light. Now, Pluto will reach its peak intensity on May 1st when it turns retrograde, a moment of stillness and "no breath", which is when the meditation is scheduled and when the most powerful energies can enter. Then Pluto will slowly phase out until June 11th when it exits Aquarius and goes back into Capricorn until 2024, when it will then finally return to Aquarius to stay for the next 20 years. So this portal of light is now open from March 23rd to June 11th. So how can we make the most of these energies? What can we do collectively and individually during this time before the portal closes on June 11th?
 

黛布拉:很高興聽你這麽說。讓我們來談談這個光之門戶開啟的占星術。最重要的是冥王星在3月23日返回水瓶座。200多年後，第一次打開了這個光之門戶。現在，冥王星將在5月1日逆行時達到其最高強度，這是一個靜止和"沒有呼吸"的時刻，這是冥想計劃的時間，也是最強大的能量可以進入的時候。然後冥王星將慢慢退出，直到6月11日，當它退出水瓶座，回到摩羯座，直到2024年，然後它將最終回到水瓶座停留20年。所以這個光之門戶現在從3月23日到6月11日開啟。那麽我們怎樣才能最大限度地利用這些能量呢？在門戶網站於6月11日關閉之前，我們可以集體和單獨做些什麽？
 

Cobra:This time is an opportunity for you to reconnect again with your higher self, with your I AM presence, with your soul. This is number one. And number two, due to the positioning of Pluto making a very beautiful trine with the Pleiades, it is time for you, if you feel so guided, to connect with the Pleiadian energy as well.
 

柯博拉：這次是一個機會，讓你再次與你的更高自我，與你的"我是存在"，與你的靈魂連接起來。這是第一個。第二，由於冥王星與昴宿星的定位，形成了一個非常美麗的三分相，是時候讓你們，如果你們感到如此被引導的話，連接昴宿星的能量了。
 

Debra: Okay, good. Will the energies received during this activation period be strong enough to stay with us, or will they dissipate over the rest of the year when Pluto returns into the more challenging sign of Capricorn?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。在這個開啟期間接收到的能量是否足夠強大，能夠留在我們身邊，或者當冥王星回到摩羯座更具挑戰性的星座時，它們會在今年剩下的時間裏消散嗎？
 

Cobra:As the old saying goes, we make two steps forward and one step back. So there will be, I would say, a delay, a regress. There will be a certain period when those energies need to be integrated. And this is expected to happen when Pluto returns back into Capricorn for the rest of the year. But this regress will not be so drastic, because the activation itself will be quite strong and a lot of this energy will be integrated. But this regress will actually be an opportunity for everybody to work on their shadows and prepare for the final push until the Event.
 

柯博拉：俗話說，我們前進兩步，後退一步。因此，我想說，會有一個延遲，一個倒退。將會有一段時期，這些能量需要被整合。當冥王星在今年餘下的時間裏回到摩羯座時，這預計會發生。但這種倒退不會那麽劇烈，因為激活本身將是相當強大的，很多這種能量將被整合。但這種倒退實際上將是一個機會，讓每個人都能在自己的陰影下工作，為最後的推動做準備，直到事件的發生。
 

Debra: Hmm, interesting. Yes, there is a lot of shadow work that people need to do at this point in clearing themselves. When Pluto comes back in 2024, will it really then kind of come in full force? You know, after having gone back into Capricorn?
 

黛布拉:
嗯，有意思。是的，在這一點上，人們需要做大量的陰影工作來清除自己。當冥王星在2024年回來的時候，它是否真的會全麵到來？你知道，在回到摩羯座之後？
 

Cobra:There is a short dip into Capricorn again at the end of, I would say between September and November, 2024. But it will be a very brief episode. But basically, yes. When Pluto enters Aquarius again in January, 2024, it will be a big push forward towards the First Contact and the Event.
 

柯博拉：在2024年9月到11月之間，摩羯座會有一次短暫的下跌。但這將是一個非常短暫的插曲。但基本上，是的。當冥王星在2024年1月再次進入水瓶座時，這將是對第一次接觸和事件的一個巨大推進。
 

Debra: Okay, good. At the moment of the activation, as you mentioned, Pluto will make a rare, exact grand trine with Alcyone, which is our local central sun in the Pleiades, and with the M87 galaxy, which is a major galaxy in the Virgo cluster. You have said that this grand trine is extremely powerful. It will be the trigger that will allow the energies from the Galactic Center to start flowing to our planet freely. Is this because it is an exact equilateral triangle, which is a sacred geometry shape? Is it powerful because this energy is flowing through a giant triangle?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。在開啟的那一刻，正如你所提到的，冥王星將與 Alcyone (我們在昴宿星團的本地中央太陽)和 m87星係(室女座星係團中的一個主要星係)形成一個罕見的、精確的三分相。你曾經說過，這個大三角非常強大。這將是一個觸發器，將允許來自銀河係中心的能量開始自由地流向我們的星球。這是因為它是一個精確的正三角形，這是一個神聖的幾何形狀？是因為能量流經一個巨大的三角形，所以它很強大嗎？
 

Cobra:If you look from the Earth you could actually see a big triangle on the ecliptic projecting the energies of Pluto, Alcyone, and M87 galaxy. So actually, there is a huge triangle which focuses on Earth, and this huge triangle has three very powerful cosmic sources. And those sources combine their energies into a huge energy flash, which will come to us. Actually those three cosmic sources forming a triangle allow the portal to open and the Source to send the flash through the universe that reaches the Earth at the optimal time to trigger the next phase. It's a demarcation point.
 

柯博拉：如果你從地球上看，你實際上可以看到黃道上的一個大三角投射出冥王星，昴宿六
和 M87星係的能量。實際上，有一個巨大的三角形聚焦在地球上，這個巨大的三角形有三個非常強大的宇宙來源。這些源頭將它們的能量結合成一個巨大的能量閃光，它會來到我們身邊。實際上，這三個宇宙源形成了一個三角形，允許傳送門打開，源頭通過宇宙發送閃光，在最佳時間到達地球，觸發下一階段。這是一個分界點。
 

Debra: Thank you for explaining that. You've indicated that the M87 galaxy is a source of galactic love for this sector of the universe, and will play an important role at the time of the Event. Would you tell us more about the M87 galaxy? Like how is it a source of galactic love? Is it inhabited? Does it have civilizations that are highly evolved, and if so, which dimension are they living?
 

黛布拉:謝謝你的解釋。你已經指出 M87星係是銀河係對宇宙這個區域愛的源泉，並將在事件發生時扮演重要角色。你能告訴我們更多關於 M87星係的信息嗎？比如它怎麽會是銀河之愛的源泉？有人居住嗎？它是否有高度進化的文明，如果有，它們生活在哪個維度？
 

Cobra:I would say there is a huge galactic network of light and love in that galaxy, which is far more evolved than the galactic network in this galaxy. And the race inhabiting that galaxy is far more evolved than the galactic race in this galaxy; I would say they're super-evolved galactic cosmic beings. In Earth terminology, I would say 11th dimension and beyond. They are super-evolved cosmic beings of light and love.
 

柯博拉：我想說，在那個星係中有一個巨大的光與愛的星係網絡，它比這個星係中的星係網絡進化得多。居住在那個星係的種族比這個星係的種族進化得更多; 我會說他們是超級進化的星係宇宙生物。用地球的術語來說，我會說第11維度和更高的維度。他們是擁有光和愛的超級進化的宇宙生物。
 

Debra: Wow. Well, we are very blessed, grateful, and honored that they are connecting with us. So you said in your recent interview that the main energy blueprint of Pluto and Aquarius is expansion beyond the limits of the quarantine Earth. That there is a vast storage of spiritual knowledge and also physical abundance, which is connected to areas beyond the surface of the planet, and that Pluto and Aquarius will reconnect the surface of the planet with reservoirs of wisdom and abundance and spiritual inspiration. And we've seen this manifest in past history when Pluto was in Aquarius. So will the reconnection with wisdom, abundance, and spiritual inspiration start with this activation and then be ongoing? Or will we have to wait until 2024 when Pluto has almost fully moved into its 20-year position in Aquarius?
 

黛布拉:哇。我們很幸運，很感激，也很榮幸他們和我們聯係在一起。所以你在最近的采訪中說，冥王星和水瓶座的主要能量藍圖是超越隔離地球的極限的擴張。存在著大量的精神知識和物質豐富性，它們與地球表麵以外的區域相連，冥王星和水瓶座將用智慧、豐富性和精神靈感的水庫重新連接地球表麵。我們在過去的曆史中看到過這個清單，當冥王星在水瓶座的時候。那麽，與智慧、富足和靈性靈感的重新連接是否會從這種開啟開始，然後持續下去呢？或者我們必須等到2024年，當冥王星幾乎完全進入它在水瓶座20年的位置？
 

Cobra:As I said, this is a demarcation point. So the trigger will be released, the process will start and will be ongoing. It'll have its setbacks later, but there will be also a huge amount of forward movement. And the 20-year period is the period when all the changes we have been waiting for have to manifest. I would say in the very early part of the 20-year period in Aquarius is when we are expecting, in our understanding, we are expecting those big changes to happen.
 

柯博拉：正如我所說，這是一個分界點。因此，觸發器將被釋放，過程將開始，並將繼續。以後會有挫折，但也會有大量的前進。而20年是所有我們一直在等待的變化必須顯現的時期。我想說的是，在寶瓶座20年期間的最初階段，我們期待著，在我們的理解中，我們期待著那些巨大的變化發生。
 

Debra: Okay. Now the energy of Pluto is more focused and much more direct than other planets with qualities like "destroyer" and "revealer", bringing everything that was suppressed to the surface. And as we are aware, disclosure and planetary liberation are taking much longer than expected. Do we need this more direct energy of Pluto to move the planetary situation out of the stuck place that we are in? And how might that show up?
 

黛布拉:好的。現在冥王星的能量比其他具有"毀滅者"和"揭示者"等特性的行星更集中、更直接，把所有被壓製的東西都帶到了表麵。正如我們所意識到的，揭露和行星解放所花的時間比預期的要長得多。我們是否需要冥王星的這種更直接的能量來將行星狀況從我們所處的困境中解脫出來？那會怎麽樣呢？
 

Cobra:This is exactly what is happening. Energy of Pluto is very laser-like, very direct, uncompromising. And this is exactly what will break this stalemate position on the planet. It'll break this holding pattern. And when Pluto energy comes, it is very sudden, very unexpected, and very direct.
 

柯博拉：這就是正在發生的事情。冥王星的能量非常像激光，非常直接，不妥協。這正是打破地球僵局的關鍵。它會打破這種等待模式。當冥王星的能量來的時候，非常突然，非常出乎意料，非常直接。
 

Debra: Stalemate is the perfect word to describe the situation we're in now. So we welcome Pluto, the energy of Pluto, to make this movement that we're waiting for. Now it seems like each planet has unique qualities, even like a personality. Are planets living beings because an entity of light has embodied them? Are these beings highly evolved since they chose to incarnate in the physical as a planet?
 

黛布拉: "僵局"這個詞用來形容我們現在的處境再合適不過了。所以我們歡迎冥王星，冥王星的能量，來做我們期待的運動。現在看來，每個行星都有其獨特的品質，甚至是個性。行星之所以有生命，是因為有光的存在體現了它們嗎？這些存有是否因為他們選擇在物質世界作為一個行星投生而高度進化？
 

Cobra:Actually every planet is, I would say, the physical planet is a physical body of a very highly evolved entity, which is ensouling that particular planet, and those are very evolved beings.
 

柯博拉：事實上，每個星球都是，我想說，物質星球是一個高度進化的實體的物質身體，賦予那個特定星球靈魂，那些是非常進化的生物。
 

Debra: What about our beloved Earth, Goddess Gaia Sophia? Did she choose to embody planet Earth, knowing that it would be the last stronghold for evil in the universe? How is she able to withstand and transmute all the negative energy here and the abuse that has been done to her? What can you tell us about her?
 

黛布拉:那麽我們親愛的地球，蓋婭 · 索菲亞女神呢？她明知地球將是宇宙中邪惡的最後據點，還選擇代表地球嗎？她怎麽能承受並轉化這裏所有的負麵能量以及對她的虐待呢？關於她你知道些什麽？
 

Cobra:It was not known that it will be the last stronghold for evil in the universe. And, it takes an enormous amount of patience for her to maintain the planetary surface without any cataclysms. She is withholding the cataclysms for the right moment, for everything to be cleared out completely. Otherwise, we would have drastic cataclysms decades ago.
 

柯博拉：沒有人知道它會成為宇宙中邪惡的最後堡壘。而且，她需要極大的耐心來維持行星表麵沒有任何災難。她是在適當的時候扣留災難，為了一切都被完全清除。否則，我們幾十年前就會發生大災難了。
 

Debra: Wow. Well, I hope we take time daily to honor her and thank her for everything she's doing for us. So you've indicated that this activation is occurring because time is running out. Would you elaborate what you mean by time running out? Does it have to do with the highly accelerated nefarious plans that the dark ones have for humanity? Does it have to do with being close to the boiling point in the nucleation phase of the Compression Breakthrough? Or, with the polar shift that is in our future?
 

黛布拉:哇。我希望我們每天都花時間紀念她感謝她為我們所做的一切。所以你已經指出了這種開啟的發生是因為時間不多了。你能解釋一下時間不多是什麽意思嗎？這和黑暗勢力對人類的高速邪惡計劃有關嗎？是否與壓縮突破的成核階段接近沸點有關？或者，隨著我們未來的極移？
 

Cobra:I would say this time is running out because certain cosmic cycles are converging and everything needs to be resolved until a certain point of time. That certain point of time, of course, is classified. It's not known to the surface population, but there is a certain point until which this has to be resolved one way or the other, and it will be resolved one way or the other. So things are accelerating because they are converging into that particular time point.
 

柯博拉：我想說，這個時間正在流逝，因為某些宇宙周期正在匯聚，所有問題都需要解決，直到某個特定的時間點。那個特定的時間點，當然，是機密。地表居民並不知道，但是有一個特定的點，在那之前，這個問題必須以某種方式解決，這個問題必須以某種方式解決。所以物體在加速，因為它們正在收斂到那個特定的時間點。
 

Debra: Can you tell us which position we are in, like how close are we to this boiling point in the nucleation phase?
 

黛布拉:你能告訴我們我們在哪個位置嗎? 比如我們離成核階段的沸點有多近？
 

Cobra:In this diagram, which was shown on my website, we are in the last phase before the big thermal transition. So this, the thermal flux is increasing more and more and at the moment of maximum thermal flux, we will have the Event.
 

柯博拉：在我的網站上顯示的這個圖表中，我們處於大熱轉變之前的最後階段。所以，熱通量越來越大，在熱通量達到最大的時候，我們就會發生事件。
 

Debra: So we are continuing to move closer to that point?
 

黛布拉:所以我們會繼續向那個目標靠近嗎？
 

Cobra:Yeah. Debra: Hopefully! Even though it's not pleasant to discuss the nefarious plans of the dark ones, I'd like to spend a few minutes doing so because this topic is on everyone's mind, especially with everything going on in the last few years and situations escalating.
 

柯博拉：是的。希望如此！盡管討論黑暗勢力的邪惡計劃並不是一件令人愉快的事情，但我還是想花幾分鍾時間來討論一下，因為這個話題是每個人都在關注的，尤其是在最近幾年發生的事情和局勢不斷升級的情況下。
 

So the plans that the dark ones have for us is quite a long list, unfortunately, including things like global war, even more dangerous pandemics, poisoned food/water/air (including injecting mRNA into our food), food shortages, a hard financial crash, hyperinflation, digital currency surveillance that tracks our every move, "15-minute" cities, fake alien invasion, energy weapon attacks, cyberattacks, and more…to create hardships, strife and hopelessness. It is a very long list.
 

因此，黑暗勢力為我們準備的計劃有很多，不幸的是，其中包括全球戰爭、更加危險的流行病、有毒的食物/水/空氣(包括向我們的食物中注入信使核糖核酸)、食物短缺、嚴重的金融危機、惡性通貨膨脹、追蹤我們一舉一動的數字貨幣監控、"15分鍾"城市、假外星人入侵、能源武器攻擊、網絡攻擊等等... ... 以製造困難、衝突和絕望。名單很長。
 

Debra:So to emphasize the importance of reaching critical mass for this May 1st meditation, I would like to ask you what we might expect regarding these plans and which ones might manifest if we do not reach critical mass? And also how these plans could weaken or deter if we do reach critical mass. So, please elaborate.
 

黛布拉:因此，為了強調在5月1日的冥想中達到臨界質量的重要性，我想問你們，對於這些計劃，我們可能會期待什麽，如果我們沒有達到臨界質量，哪些計劃可能會顯現？以及如果我們達到臨界質量，這些計劃將如何削弱或阻止。所以，請詳細說明。
 

Cobra:Okay. It is expected that many of those plans, the possibility of many of those plans, will drop to zero as we reach the point of that portal. So, some of them are already quite improbable and their probability will drop to zero. If we reach the critical mass, we will reduce more and more of those plans to zero. If we don't reach the critical mass, some of those plans will still be probable to a certain degree, but I would say the progress we are making is good. So many of those plans are not realistic anymore. For example, the plan of a fake alien invasion, this is not going to happen. It's impossible, it's already impossible.
 

柯博拉：好的。預計當我們到達那個門戶點時，許多這些計劃，其中許多計劃的可能性，將降至零。因此，其中一些已經是相當不可能的，他們的概率將下降到零。如果我們達到臨界質量，我們將把越來越多的計劃減少到零。如果我們沒有達到臨界質量，其中一些計劃在一定程度上仍然有可能，但我要說，我們正在取得的進展是好的。那麽多的計劃都不再現實了。例如，假外星人入侵的計劃，這是不會發生的。不可能，已經不可能了。
 

Debra: Okay, good. Well, again, more motivation to participate in the May 1st meditation! So, critical mass is essential, it sounds like. I understand that at your recent conference in Taiwan, you mentioned that the dark forces have pretty much exhausted all their resources to try to keep the pandemic and the covid quarantine in place for the last three years, and therefore they don't have a lot of resources left. You indicated that, at this point, one of the very few things that they have up their sleeves is to potentially crash the financial system, but there's not much else that they can do. Would you speak more about this? Could this crash happen even if critical mass is reached?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。那麽，再次，更多的動力參與五一冥想！所以臨界質量是必不可少的。我知道你最近在台灣的會議上提到，黑暗勢力為了維持疫情和冠狀病毒疾病隔離已經耗盡了他們所有的資源，所以他們剩下的資源不多了。你指出，此時此刻，他們僅有的幾件事情之一就是潛在地摧毀金融體係，但他們能做的也不多。你能再說說這個嗎？即使達到臨界質量，這種崩潰還會發生嗎？
 

Cobra:This hard financial crash is still possible. Their plan is to introduce the central banking digital currencies [CBDCs] as a result of that crash, which they would engineer. But I would also say that the Light Forces have their own plans, and if they do something like this, the Light Forces could create a surprise. And if we reach the critical mass, that surprise is much more likely. So, I would say this is one of the more probable plans of the dark, which has not been cleared out yet completely. But the Light Forces are doing whatever possible to drop that possibility to zero.
 

柯博拉：這場嚴重的金融危機仍有可能發生。他們的計劃是引入央行數字貨幣(CBDC) ，作為金融危機的結果。但是我也要說光明勢力有他們自己的計劃，如果他們這樣做，光明勢力會製造一個驚喜。如果我們達到臨界質量，那麽出其不意的可能性就更大。所以，我認為這是黑暗勢力更有可能的計劃之一，它還沒有被完全清除。但是光明勢力正在盡一切可能把這種可能性降到零。
 

Debra: Good. Well, we look forward to what that surprise might be! So, Lightworkers are needed to hold as much light as possible during these intense times, yet worry and fear of the unknown about our future can truly lower that vibration. And this worry especially applies to their finances, wondering if they will be able to keep a roof over their head or food on the table. Should this negative financial crash happen, could people lose money in their bank accounts? And what are the recommendations of the Light Forces regarding where to keep the money that we have? Is it in alternate options like precious metals or cryptocurrency? And what is your advice about Bitcoin and Ripple?
 

黛布拉:很好。我們很期待會有什麽驚喜！因此，光之工作者需要在這些緊張的時刻盡可能多地持有光，然而對我們未來的未知的擔憂和恐懼可以真正降低這種振動。這種擔憂尤其適用於他們的財務狀況，他們擔心自己是否能夠維持生計或者能夠維持餐桌上的食物。如果這種負麵的金融崩潰發生了，人們會在銀行賬戶上損失錢嗎？光之部隊有什麽建議關於把我們的錢放在哪裏？它是否存在於貴金屬或加密貨幣之類的替代選擇中？你對比特幣和Ripple有什麽建議？
 

Cobra:If the dark forces engineer a hard financial crash, the banks would be closed. And then when the digital currencies would be introduced, you could probably keep most or even all of the money that you previously had in your bank account, but it would be digital and it would be surveilled by the dark. So it would be advisable to at least convert some of that money into silver or gold, precious metals. Cryptocurrency? Use your own inner guidance. I cannot say anything more about that.
 

柯博拉：如果黑暗勢力策劃了一場嚴重的金融危機，銀行就會關門。然後當數字貨幣出現的時候，你可以保留大部分甚至是所有你之前存在銀行賬戶裏的錢，但是它是數字的，並且會被黑暗監視。因此，最好至少將其中一部分貨幣兌換成白銀或黃金等貴金屬。加密貨幣？用你內心的指引。我不能再多說什麽了。
 

Debra: Okay, thank you for sharing that with us. Can you tell us how likely it is that a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency] system will be put in place and how soon that could happen? Things we would like to know, like how long would we have to deal with the tyranny of the CBDC system before a positive financial system kicks in? Could the positive quantum financial system kick in prior to the Event if the May 1st meditation is successful? And, could the meditation prevent the CBDC from being implemented? We appreciate any insight you can offer on this topic.
 

黛布拉:好的，謝謝你和我們分享這些。你能告訴我們央行數字貨幣係統建立起來的可能性有多大，多快能夠實現嗎？我們想知道的是，在一個積極的金融體係發揮作用之前，我們還需要多長時間來應對 CBDC 體係的暴政？如果5月1日的冥想成功了，正麵量子金融係統會在事件發生之前啟動嗎？那麽，冥想能否阻止 CBDC 的實施呢？我們感謝您對這個話題的任何見解。
 

Cobra:There will definitely be attempts for this system to be introduced, but this meditation will decrease that possibility, and the portal itself will also decrease that possibility. And as I said, there are many positive surprises possible at each stage of the process. So the situation is not so one-sided that many people would like to portray. And in the long run, this CBDC system will not be successful. It will not succeed.
 

柯博拉：肯定會有人嚐試引入這個係統，但是這個冥想會減少這種可能性，而門戶本身也會減少這種可能性。正如我所說，在這個過程的每個階段都有許多可能的積極的驚喜。因此，情況並不是很多人願意描述的那樣一麵倒。從長遠來看，這個 CBDC 係統不會成功。它不會成功的。
 

Debra: Okay, good to hear. Being able to prepare for what is ahead can help people reduce worry, fear, and anxiety. So, what can you suggest to us on how to prepare both physically and energetically to withstand whatever nefarious plans or chaos does manifest?
 

黛布拉:好的，很高興聽你這麽說。能夠為將要發生的事情做好準備可以幫助人們減少擔心、恐懼和焦慮。那麽，對於如何在身體上和能量上做好準備，以抵禦任何邪惡的計劃或混亂的顯現，你能給我們什麽建議呢？
 

Cobra:Very simply, connect with your higher self, with your I AM presence, with your soul.
 

柯博拉：非常簡單，連接你的高我，連接你的"我是存在"，連接你的靈魂。
 

Debra: So stay in that place of connection, thank you. This question concerns specifically the financial struggles that many Lightworkers face. You've taught us in the past the techniques of manifestation: intention, invocation, and action. However, it seems like many Lightworkers, especially those battling on the front lines, experience an unnatural amount of interference from the dark when attempting to manifest better lives for themselves. Many of these Lightworkers have selflessly worked for years in service of the Light without receiving any awards or compensation for their efforts, and instead of their lives getting better, it seems the more they give and the more they work for the light, the worse their lives get in all aspects such as finances and health, etc. Some Lightworkers find themselves currently in financial dire straits and are even struggling to find a decent place to live. Under such conditions many Lightworkers find it increasingly difficult to stay motivated and continue with their work. So besides the manifestation technique of intention, invocation, and action, are there any other concrete measures that Lightworkers can take to reduce dark interference in their manifesting process?
 

黛布拉:所以留在那個連接的地方，謝謝。這個問題特別關注許多光之工作者所麵臨的財務鬥爭。你們在過去已經教會我們顯現的技巧: 意圖、祈求和行動。然而，似乎許多光之工作者，特別是那些在前線戰鬥的人，在試圖為自己顯化更好的生活時，經曆了來自黑暗的非自然的幹擾。這些光之工作者中的許多人已經無私地為光服務多年，並沒有因為他們的努力而獲得任何獎勵或補償，而且他們的生活並沒有變得更好，似乎他們付出的越多，為光工作的越多，他們的生活在諸如財務和健康等方麵就變得越糟糕。一些光之工作者發現他們自己目前處於財政困境，甚至正在努力尋找一個體麵的地方生活。在這樣的條件下，許多光之工作者發現越來越難以保持動力並繼續他們的工作。因此，除了意願、祈求和行動的顯化技術，還有其他任何具體的措施，光之工作者可以采取來減少他們顯化過程中的黑暗幹擾嗎？
 

Cobra:The key here would be to have balance between the work for the light and work for your own well-being. So if this is kept in balance, and if you continue doing the manifestation process, there should be results. Also, unfortunately, we are in the last phase of this galactic war, and it is really fierce. It is brutal. It is quite drastic and many people have experienced quite drastic attacks and quite serious setbacks in their life situations in the last few years as a result of all the dark attacks. It is expected that those situations can begin slowly to resolve, after we open the portal.
 

柯博拉：這裏的關鍵是要在為光而工作和為你自己的幸福而工作之間保持平衡。因此，如果這是保持平衡的，如果你繼續做顯化過程，應該會有結果。而且，不幸的是，我們正處於這場銀河係戰爭的最後階段，這場戰爭非常激烈。太殘忍了。這是相當激烈的，許多人經曆了相當激烈的攻擊和相當嚴重的挫折，他們的生活狀況在過去幾年中，由於所有的黑暗的攻擊。預計在我們門戶開啟之後，這些情況可以開始緩慢地解決。
 

Debra: Okay, good. After this portal opening on May 1st, what concrete steps are the Light Forces planning to take to significantly enhance the quality of life for Lightworkers? What are some specific improvements that Lightworkers might expect to see in their day-to-day lives?
 

黛布拉:好的，很好。在5月1日這個門戶開啟之後，光明勢力計劃采取什麽具體步驟來顯著提高光之工作者的生活質量？光之工作者可能期望在他們的日常生活中看到哪些具體的改進？
 

Cobra:There is a certain specific protocol which is being beta tested now and is expected to become quite effective after May 1st. And when I have some concrete information about this that I can release, I will release it.
 

柯博拉：目前有一個特定的協議正在進行測試，預計在5月1日之後會非常有效。當我有一些具體的信息，我可以發布，我會發布它。
 

Debra: We very much look forward to hearing that! What are the implications for Lightworkers when Dreamland reaches 1.0 and how can they participate already? Is it in operation in any capacity yet?
 

黛布拉:
我們非常期待聽到這個消息! 當 "夢境 "達到1.0時，對光合作用者有什麽影響，他們如何已經參與其中？它是否已經以任何形式在運作了？
 

Cobra:All that is classified information at this point.
 

柯博拉：目前所有這些都是機密信息。
 

Debra: Okay, thank you. Now, you haven't yet disclosed anything about Dreamspace. Can you share anything about that? And is it related to Dreamland?
 

黛布拉:好的，謝謝。你還沒有透露夢境的任何信息。你能透露點什麽嗎？和夢境有關嗎？
 

Cobra:This is also classified information.
 

柯博拉：這也是機密信息。
 

Debra: Okay, thank you. So as we just talked about, these attacks in the past couple of years, some of these attacks have been drastically ramping up against Lightworkers, especially targeting their physical health. Some Lightworkers who've been following your intel for many years and who've been diligently going about their missions, have fallen severely ill or suffered from injuries that have left them incapacitated and physically unable to continue with their missions. These are Lightworkers who regularly shield and protect, they invoke Command 1221 multiple times a day, and lead otherwise healthy lives. So besides using the Violet Flame and invoking the Pleidian command protocols, what other concrete measures can Lightworkers take to protect their health? Also, for those whose health has been severely compromised through dark attacks, what is the best way for these Lightworkers to recover and get back on their feet?
 

黛布拉:好的，謝謝。因此，正如我們剛剛談到的，在過去的幾年裏，這些攻擊中的一些已經對光之工作者大幅增加，特別是針對他們的身體健康。一些光之工作者已經跟隨你們的情報很多年了，他們一直在努力完成他們的任務，他們已經嚴重生病或者遭受傷害，這些傷害使得他們喪失了能力並且身體上無法繼續他們的任務。這些是經常保護和保護的光之工作者，他們每天多次調用命令1221，並且過著健康的生活。那麽除了使用紫羅蘭火焰和調用昴宿星命令協議，光之工作者還能采取什麽其他具體措施來保護他們的健康呢？還有，對於那些因為黑暗襲擊而嚴重損害健康的人來說，什麽是這些光之工作者恢複和重新站起來的最好方法？
 

Cobra:Again, as I have said before, the key here is balance between work for the mission and work towards healing yourself and making your life better. And one of the other situations that need to be resolved is those attacks need to get less and less. And when the darkness really begins to lose power on the surface of the planet, those situations will begin to resolve, they will begin to heal.
 

柯博拉：正如我以前說過的，這裏的關鍵是在為使命而工作和為治愈自己而工作之間取得平衡，讓你的生活變得更好。另一個需要解決的問題是這些攻擊需要越來越少。當黑暗真的開始失去行星表麵的力量，這些情況將開始解決，他們將開始愈合。
 

Debra: Okay. So there's a balance between giving to the light and also giving to yourself, self-care.
 

黛布拉:好的。所以在給予光明和給予自己、照顧自己之間是有平衡的。
 

Cobra:Yes.
 

柯博拉：是的。
 

Debra: What about the more frequent occurrences of depression, anxiety, sleep disturbances, insomnia, and even nightmares people are experiencing? Are these energetic attacks a result of the current cleansing by the Light Forces of the black holes and anomalies, or what is causing this? And is there anything more you can tell us to do to lessen these conditions?
 

黛布拉:抑鬱、焦慮、睡眠障礙、失眠，甚至是人們正在經曆的噩夢這些更頻繁發生的事情又是怎麽回事呢？這些能量攻擊是光之力清理黑洞和異常現象的結果，還是什麽導致了這一切？你還能告訴我們做些什麽來減輕這些狀況嗎？
 

Cobra:This is a direct result of the purification of the darkness, especially on the etheric plane right now. All those entities, dark technologies, all that is being cleared, and this is quite intense. And of course, do your own protection techniques and focus upon the light. And it is expected that those things will get better at some point where we will be able to protect ourselves more and when light can begin to fully enter on the etheric plane.
 

柯博拉：這是黑暗淨化的直接結果，特別是現在在以太層麵上。所有這些實體，黑暗科技，所有這些正在被清除，這是相當激烈的。當然，做你自己的保護技巧，專注於光。預計這些事情會在某個時候變得更好，在那個時候我們將能夠更好地保護我們自己，在那個時候光能夠開始完全進入以太層麵。
 

Debra: Right. And I know it's probably something obvious, but I just would like to point out the importance of doing DAILY protection protocols, especially if you are an active Lightworker. So Cobra, if the May 1st meditation is successful, will it be easier for the Light Forces to remove our implants and will it be easier for us to help remove them also? You know, we do exercises that help people to dissolve the implants. Will this be easier after the May 1st meditation?
 

黛布拉:對。我知道這可能是顯而易見的，但我隻是想指出做每日保護協議的重要性，特別是如果你是一個正麵的光工作者。那麽，柯博拉，如果5月1日的冥想成功了，光明勢力會更容易移除我們的植入物嗎? 我們也會更容易幫助移除它們嗎？你知道，我們做運動，幫助人們溶解植入物。在五一之後，這會變得容易些嗎？
 

Cobra:Yes, that is expected.
 

柯博拉：是的，這是意料之中的。
 

Debra: Good. And at the Paris Conference, you stated at the time that the Goddess energy on the planet was very, very low, like zero. Has this improved since that conference, and especially now after the recent Taiwan conference?
 

黛布拉:很好。在巴黎會議上，你說當時地球上的女神能量非常非常低，幾乎為零。自從那次會議以來，特別是最近的台灣會議以後，這種情況有沒有改善？
 

Cobra:It has improved since the last Taiwan conference to a degree, but much, much more improvement is necessary.
 

柯博拉：自從上次台灣會議以來，它已經有了一定程度的改進，但是還需要更多的改進。
 

Debra: Yes, agreed. Is there a threshold amount of divine feminine energy needed that will finally turn the tide to potentially trigger the Event?
 

黛布拉:是的，同意。是否有一個閾值量的神聖女性能量需要，最終將扭轉潮流，潛在地觸發事件？
 

Cobra:There is no specific threshold amount of divine feminine energy required for the Event, it just determines how harmonious or how hard the transition will be. Of course, with more divine feminine energy present, the transition will be more harmonious. But with the amount we have now, the Event itself will be quite a shocking and drastic experience for most people on the surface of this planet.
 

柯博拉：事件並不需要特定的女性能量閾值，它隻是決定轉變的和諧程度或困難程度。當然，隨著更多神聖的女性能量的出現，轉變將會更加和諧。但是以我們現在所擁有的數量，這次事件本身對於地球表麵的大多數人來說將是一次相當震驚和極端的經曆。
 

Debra: Okay, more motivation to get involved with Sisterhood of the Rose and also doing your own inner work to call in more and anchor more divine feminine Goddess energy. So, absolutely. You indicated that if the Lightworker energy grid will be reactivated, that there will be a rebirth of Goddess energy and the feminine principle will begin to flow more freely, and all that can happen if critical mass is reached. How will this visibly show up on the planet and with humanity?
 

黛布拉:好的，加入玫瑰姐妹會的更多動力，同時也做你自己的內在工作，呼喚更多，錨定更多神聖的女性女神能量。所以，當然。你指出，如果光之工作者能量網格將被重新開啟，那麽將會有一個女神能量的再生，女性原則將開始更自由地流動，如果達到臨界質量，所有這一切都將發生。這將如何在地球和人類身上明顯地表現出來？
 

Cobra:This can show up as more hope, more inspiration, more peace, more balance, less madness, and less violence on the planet.
 

柯博拉：這可以表現為地球上更多的希望、更多的靈感、更多的和平、更多的平衡、更少的瘋狂和更少的暴力。
 

Debra: Very good. In other words, making the transition much easier. So in the meantime, what can Sisterhood of the Rose and others who are dedicated to anchoring more energy do to assist this?
 

黛布拉:很好。換句話說，讓轉變變得更容易。那麽與此同時，玫瑰姐妹會和其他致力於錨定更多能量的人們能做些什麽來幫助這一切呢？
 

Cobra:Okay, at this point, the most important thing is to assist in spreading the word about the Portal of Light [activation] and participate fully. This is just a 20-minute meditation, and I would believe that this is not something overly difficult to do, to take 20 minutes of your time and dedicate it to this. And this can potentially change a lot on this planet. So I would encourage everybody to spread the word and to dedicate some time to meditate on that day.
 

柯博拉：好的，在這一點上，最重要的事情是幫助傳播關於光之門戶的話[開啟]和充分參與。這隻是一個20分鍾的冥想，我相信這並不是一件很難做到的事情，花20分鍾的時間專注於此。這可能會給這個星球帶來很大的改變。因此，我鼓勵大家在那一天傳播這個信息，並且花一些時間來冥想。
 

Debra: Absolutely. And again, this Portal of Light activation meditation takes place on May 1st at 5:06 PM UTC. And you can find more information about this meditation on Cobra's blog at 2012portal.blogspot.com, as well as on the WeLoveMassMeditation.com website.
 

黛布拉:當然。同樣，這個光之門戶開啟冥想發生在世界協調時5月1日下午5:06。你可以在 Cobra 的博客2012portal.blogspot.com 和 welovemassmeditation.com 網站上找到更多關於這種冥想的信息。
 

Awesome, Cobra, thank you for sharing that. In our Part Two of the interview next month, we are going to be speaking about the results of this activation. Hopefully there's some very good news around this. We'll also be speaking a lot more about Goddess energy, twin souls, Ascension, the Event, and much more. So we look forward to connecting with you again for that.
 

太棒了，柯博拉，謝謝你的分享。在下個月的采訪的第二部分，我們將會談到這種開啟的結果。希望能有好消息。我們也將談論更多關於女神能量、雙生靈魂、揚升、事件等等。因此，我們期待著再次與您聯係。
 

So Cobra, as we end Part One of this interview, would you please share some words of inspiration and encouragement, and if there's anything else you'd like to say about the upcoming activation?
 

因此，柯博拉，當我們結束這次采訪的第一部分，你可以分享一些鼓舞和鼓勵的話，如果還有什麽你想說的關於即將到來的開啟？
 

Cobra:Okay. I would say that the last few years were quite boring. There was not much going on. It was just a lot of same old, same old. But now we are finally getting to a more interesting part of our evolutionary process. So I would say hold the light, dedicate some time to spread word about this activation – and Victory of the Light.
 

柯博拉：好的。我得說過去幾年很無聊。沒發生什麽事。隻是老樣子，老樣子。但是現在我們終於進入了進化過程中更有趣的部分。所以我會說，持有光，奉獻一些時間來傳播關於這種開啟-和光的勝利的話。
 

Debra: Yes, Victory of the Light! Cobra, thank you so much for doing this interview, for guiding us and continuing to hold the light for humanity. We appreciate you very much and look forward to talking to you again in Part Two. So thank you so much. I'd also like to thank the Sisterhood of the Rose and Victory of Light teams who contributed questions and helped with support of this interview. I thank you all so much. Thank you again, Cobra, Victory of the Light.
 

黛布拉:是的，光的勝利！柯博拉，非常感謝你接受我們的采訪，感謝你指引我們，感謝你繼續為人類指明方向。我們非常感謝您，並期待在第二部分再次與您交談。非常感謝。我還要感謝玫瑰姐妹會和光之勝利團隊，他們提出了問題並幫助支持了這次采訪。非常感謝大家。再次感謝你，柯博拉，光的勝利。
 

Cobra:Thank you, Victory of the Light.
 

柯博拉：謝謝你，光的勝利。
 

來源：https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2023/04/sisterhood-of-rose-interview-with-cobra-portal-of-light-activation.html