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AIG門,恐怖門!美國人民被政客賣了都不知道

(2009-03-18 18:13:17) 下一個


AIG 門,恐怖門!美國人民被政客賣了都不知道
 


美國有線電視新聞網( CNN )一篇報道讓我讀後感慨萬千,也有點毛骨悚然,原來聯盟刺激法案允許發獎金。眼下鬧得沸沸揚揚的 AIG 獎金醜聞原來根源在國會或聯邦府,這裏藏有蛀蟲。

那些爭相表態要剝奪 AIG 經理們的獎金的民主黨領袖們,麵對一個很難回答的關鍵問題:為什麽在當初沒有采取措施,以防止這種獎金的發放?

民主黨參議院銀行委員會主席 Chris Dodd 說,他根本不知道那些豁免條款如何得以被插入最近通過的刺激法案。

哦,原來國會上個月製定刺激法案時,曾有一項動議以防止接受政府 Bailout 的部門主管亂發獎金。然而,最後被批準的法案裏,文字被做了手腳,原先的動議被拿掉了,並加進了讓 AIG 有豁免權的一些條文。
 
在有線電視新聞網采訪時, Dodd 否認自己插入了那些條文,並堅持,他不知道那些條文是如何被塞進法案裏的。
 
Dodd 告訴有線電視新聞網 “ 我當時起草的文件,沒有現在的語言。 ”

民主黨多位參議院領袖們也都否認他們對豁免條例塞入刺激法案知情。

奇怪的是,一方麵原有的限製條款被神不知鬼不覺地抽出,另一方麵讓 AIG 亂發獎金的豁免條款被悄悄的塞入刺激法案。

據說美國參議院通過了一項兩黨都支持的的修正案,旨在對那些獲得聯邦援助的公司發放的獎金征稅,除非該公司將這些獎金的錢還給政府。 但是,當時白宮和眾議院閉門匆匆談判時,這些條款被人拿掉了,卻未能發覺。

美國參議院財政委員會主席鮑卡斯說 “ 老實說,當時一切都很匆忙 - 我們談論的是讓刺激法案獲得通過,我沒有時間,其他的與會者也沒有時間來仔細查對許多已被大幅修改了的條款。

斯諾在接受采訪時告訴有線電視新聞網 “ 我們本不該走到今天這步,本應可以跨越這一坎,但我們沒能成功。” “我們嚐試了,但卻未能如願,這是一個悲劇,因此才有今天的這一切。”

總之-句話,從這件事中,國會議員們拿國家法令當兒戲,拿納稅人的血汗錢當手紙可見一斑。神聖的法案被他們肆意篡改,卻無人知曉,美國人民被他們玩於鼓掌之中。有一天,我們都被賣掉了,回頭這幫政客會斬釘截鐵地、痛哭流涕地說:

“我真的不知道是誰幹的,這是一個悲劇。”


原文參見:
Bonuses allowed by stimulus bill

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/17/aig.bonuses.congress/index.html


CNN最新消息:參議院銀行委員會主席克裏斯托弗•多德(Dodd)告訴有線電視新聞網表示,他自己對語言添加到聯邦刺激法案負責。這是對他一天前的否定之否定。

Dodd承認他在這件所謂烏龍中所起的關鍵作用,但他把責任推給了奧巴馬政府,因為是政府官員施壓後,而別人又不願修改,才迫使他來了個“狸貓換太子”。

據說,政府官員擔心,如果不按原先的合同讓AIG發獎金,政府將麵臨許多訴訟。

看來,這件事會被政敵用來大舉攻擊,奧巴馬政府失信、民主黨要員失德,民憤越來越大,100天不到的奧巴馬新政將遭遇重大挫折。



參見:

Dodd: Administration pushed for language protecting bonuses

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/18/aig.bonuses.congress/index.html



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武勝 回複 悄悄話 注意參院共和黨動態: 共和黨在參議院阻礙受援金融企業高收入者的獎金加稅法案,他們才是華爾街的"保護神",居然有臉拿獎金案來攻擊民主黨政府,想要將民眾怒火從金融機構移開,打擊政治對手比整治經濟重要.
nywalker 回複 悄悄話 回複浪寬的評論:

立法征100%獎金稅也隻是口號,法律上很難成立。現在隻有AIG員工自己把獎金還回來才是唯一能討回的辦法。

目前AIG還有1萬六千億美元($1.6Trillion)賠償金合約暴露在信貸違約掉期(CDS)市場,(前麵已經消化了1萬兩千億),政府和AIG都要靠這些AIG員工處理掉這一萬六千億衍生性金融商品(credit derivative),隻有製造這些金融商品的AIG金融高手才知道最快最有效的方法處理掉或對衝掉這些金融垃圾。

如果這些高手一氣之下一起離開AIG,其他金融公司會馬上把他們請去,用他們對政府和AIG這一萬六千億暴露合約進行反對衝來賺取更多的暴利和獎金。納稅人的損失就遠大於這一億多獎金了。

這次納稅人被套牢了。
浪寬 回複 悄悄話 回複nywalker的評論:
對極了。所有這些家夥屁股都不幹淨,隻是技巧高低而已。叫得最凶的也許最臭。那個Dodd周二大叫沒幹,周三又反悔了。原來他自己是原凶。
浪寬 回複 悄悄話 回複武勝的評論:
謝謝武勝.國會沒法阻止發獎金,但可以立法征稅討還.這也是一招。但我有點擔心,如果這招濫用會傷及無辜。國會權利太大也不好。

原先有人鼓噪讓AIG還錢,我覺得是瞎起哄。AIG本沒錢才找政府要的呀。他們把錢還給你政府,然後你再借給他,有什麽意義呢?
武勝 回複 悄悄話 國會止損方法通過:加稅討還,而且也包括其它接受援助的企業。
武勝 回複 悄悄話 盡管原因不象很多人說得那麽簡單,這件事情新政府隻好概括承受,特別是Geithner很早就介入救援AIG。注意共和黨正在把AIG當作攻擊武器,全然無視前共和黨政府在initiate bailout plan時的責任,也不提法律責任的難處。他們在意的不是救經濟的迫切性,而是政爭選舉。他們現在希望經濟搞糟,希望給Obama難堪,僅此而已。Bill Clinton早有告誡這種情況的發生,因為他深有體會。
nywalker 回複 悄悄話 在當時布什政府決定拯救金融公司時就已經出賣了美國納稅人。
從社會階層角度看,這場金融危機實質是一場社會階層之間的財富大轉移: 華爾街金融帝國高級階層勾結政客通過製造“紙上財富“拿到巨額獎金的形勢將未來納稅人的財富轉移到自己口袋裏。

AIG的錯在於發獎金的事讓媒體走漏了風聲。。。
huhohu 回複 悄悄話 看看美國人的反應:

this guy had a lot to do with the mess at Fannie and Freddie. his constituents must be proud. think it shows we need term limits. the power of the incumbency is too great
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bigalhall 1:25 PM
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oblamie Yes he did!!!!
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bunggy 1:29 PM
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bigalhall: Term limits sound good but congress will never enact it. We as the people just need to vote these crooks out!
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lost_in_time88 1:30 PM
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"This was a huge bill," Baucus said. "We agreed on structure. Then when staffs and Treasury get in the room and actually write it, that's where it got dropped. And frankly, it was such a rush, talking about the stimulus bill right now, to get it passed, I did not have time, other conferees did not have time to address many of the provisions that were modified significantly. We do the best we can, but we missed that stuff as a result."++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++What? If you don't know what the heck was in it then why where you all voting for it?????
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lost_in_time88 1:32 PM
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An old Navy statement. When the Rats start fighting with each other to jump ship, it is time to jump yourself. Vote all these guys out. Every last one of them. Or plan on jumping ship.
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mlschmi 1:33 PM
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On Tuesday he said he had NOTHING to do with it. On Wednesday he said he DID have something to do with it. The latest is that he had something to do with it but ONLY becuase the Higher Ups told him to. Please verify all of this for yourselves. "I didn't" "I did" "I DID....but because I was told to." Oh my God....What a shame. PREDICTION: Barney Frank is NEXT. What a shame....
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mbeliv 1:33 PM
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I think it is Sen. Dodd is responsible for the great Financial Cleanup but Mr. Geighner has a big, big, big, fat financial liar!!!! But the president is not responsible for the mess. Because, Senator Dodd use the key words of our financial system in America.
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longeagle88 1:34 PM
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If I used the line "We do the best we can, but we missed that stuff as a result" at my job, I would be fired immediately. How do we put a stop to this madness that we call government?
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larsphem 1:34 PM
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So they missed it. Chris Dodd and Treasury messed up on this in the rush to finish the bill. But I can tell you he is a good man and one of the most outspoken people in Congress when it comes to standing up for average Americans. Pass the windfall profits tax to recoup these AIG bonuses and get back to business.
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hopesprings52 1:34 PM
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Of course the administration asked him to leave the bonuses in...because the administration is beholden to the CEOs for the millions of $$ given during the campaign. Chicago politics, my good man!
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navylady63 1:34 PM
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hopesprings52: Do you know how naive you sound?
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lost_in_time88 1:36 PM
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blah blah blahthey all knewlooks like we got fooled againmaybe thats why wall street backed obama and not hillary?
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lndlouis 1:36 PM
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The problem with voting all these crooks out is that the American people are too stupid to replace them with nothing but more crooks. Honestly, who but a crook would want their job anyway?
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Cheshire9337 1:37 PM
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This is getting rich.. I mean, you just can't make up chit like this and be so entertaining!!
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d_dblu_p 1:38 PM
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Senator Dodd is nothing more than a two face politician. I am sure in his thoughts I CAN LIE TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND NOT GET CAUGHT. Senator you can lie to us but sooner or later it will come out. If I the power to put you in jail you would be there along witth Barney Frank, and the SEC. You are as much at fault as are the ilk that caused such a financial crisis here in American and it snowballed around the world. RESIGN YOU TWO FACED LIER!
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BillB.3251 1:38 PM
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People in Connecticut must be really stupid to keep electing Dodd. He's an idiot and a moron all in one. Same as voters in Massachusetts electing Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy. Another couple of idiots whose times have come.
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newamerica1 1:40 PM
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All of the politicians, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Tim Geithner, Obama, etc...are simplycrooks. Their hands are soaked in corruption and money grabbing greed and it is all starting to unravel. They are disgusting.
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Morrison3000 1:40 PM
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looks like the start of one of the most corrupt administrations to see the whitehouse.....GIVE HIM A CHANCE HE HAS ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 2 MONTHS....A CHANCE? WE CANT WAIT ANOTHER MONTH...WITH THIS CORRUPT BUNCH AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOVE DOWN OUR THROATS> WHAT AN OBAMANTION.
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catman6917 1:40 PM
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Resign you two faced lier. It would be better for the country.
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BillB.3251 1:40 PM
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100% sleeze. Vote the bum outand vote in term limits.
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captdale3 1:41 PM
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Amazing.. abc put this as a headline... let's see how long it stays there... only thing is the "not my fault" subhead left out a key element - it was "Obama administration that asked him to do it"
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swenk222 1:42 PM
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"...when Treasury was shown the original Dodd amendment language, it raised legal concerns about the effect of the legislation on pre-existing contracts, pointing out that there could be litigation as a result."That would have been horrible. After all, there's such a shortage of lawyers in government...
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creeper1014 1:42 PM
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yeah sure, Obama wanted AIG to get bonuses. RIdiculous. Not a reason in the world why he wouldhave allowed that. WHat is up with Dodd??? He is so knee deep in this crap, I hope he resigns. Is he up for reelection??
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WillWinterNeverEnd 1:43 PM
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100% slimy politician. Vote the bum out and vote in term limits.
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captdale3 1:43 PM
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Well. Obama has already taken "responsibility" has he not? Oh. Not really? Let's watch him toss this back to Bush. I'll bet Axelrod is already working on that teleprompter presentation. Let's just write this off along with earmarks, pork, lobbyists, and every other lie told to implant this socialist regime. Don't worry, Dodd and Frank are watching out for your financial future while Pelosi seeks Latino votes by keeping illegal workers working in California and Reid sets up his train set from Disneyworld to Vegas. My, but we are a stupid people!
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n_erdowell 1:44 PM
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河裏的石頭1 回複 悄悄話 回複武勝的評論:
有這麽一個說法, 當美國國會通過一項法律時,它成了笑話;當國會開了個玩笑時,它成了法律。 (When Congress pass a bill, it is a joke; when Congress make a joke, it turns into law)
浪寬 回複 悄悄話 奧巴馬這樣搞下去可能會在2010年被共和黨奪回參議院多數,那樣的話,他也就別想做任何大事了,2012年能否連任就不好說了。
浪寬 回複 悄悄話 謝謝樓下諸位的評論.

美國法律確實有其漏洞。國會立法者與大商家聯合其來欺騙老百姓。他們的任期沒用限製,他們可以往任何法案裏塞進自己的黑貨。法是他們定的,現在要改,真是比登天還難。

中國是人大與法,如果上麵有好人,還可以為老百姓做點好事。雖然這種可能性不大。

武勝:
我同意你的部分看法。壟斷企業綁架經濟,綁架政府,綁架全民,一定要采取措施改變,否則後患無窮。
至於政府已有AIG80%的股份,政府是否有權對任何一項合同重新評估我也不懂。

美國完不了,奧巴馬倒確有大麻煩。

同意石頭人:實質應該修改《破產法》,有連帶責任才行,企業破產,相應高管也應隨之破產。

AIG之於政府有如兒子之於父母,父母(政府)離不開兒子(AIG),而兒子卻可以無所顧忌,破罐破摔。
bong 回複 悄悄話 有OBAMA在,這種事不出也難。這就是OBAMA的社會主義,和中國的確實很像。
中國民主 回複 悄悄話 再回複zuanzuan的評論:

我們經常看到在中國許多貪官被殺被關,而在米國你見過幾個政客和有錢人被起訴的?在米國政客們做任何事情都是“合法的”,因為他們的確都是依“法”行事!你所說的可能能夠用來解釋這些現象。
中國民主 回複 悄悄話 回複zuanzuan的評論:
你說的有些道理!如果你了解米國的“政法”係統是如何工作的,你就會明白為什麽“金子定理”在米國是那麽的適用--“The man who has gold makes rules ” 這就是你所說的“走前門,明目張膽地幹不法的事”的原因!可憐的普通米國老百姓那裏知道這麽多--他們的腦早就被洗空了!
武勝 回複 悄悄話 國會和政府裏有大資本的代表毫不奇怪,最好有機會揪幾個出來. 但問題的焦點是:如果現在所有人都無法合法地取消AIG的獎金合同,那當初國會刺激法案能夠取消它麽? 立法本身要合法,否則成為笑話. 國會當時握有不給錢的權力,但沒有取消合同的權力. 要讓獎金合同破局,隻有讓AIG破產,而評估下來又無法承受.這就叫綁架,壟斷企業綁架經濟.

現在要做該做的事:通過這件事全麵加強監管讓BAILOUT更有效.長期來看壟斷企業要麽拆解,要麽國有化,否則後患無窮.
zuncong 回複 悄悄話 回複zuanzuan的評論:

你對美國和中國都缺乏基本的了解。
827 回複 悄悄話 看來美國真的要完了.
viewer 回複 悄悄話 奧巴馬曾接受AIG政治捐獻

美國國際集團(AIG)巨額獎金案引發的連鎖反應,已經開始威脅到美國政府的信譽。財長蓋特納更是首當其衝。AIG雖虧損嚴重,但去年大選期間,仍進行了大量政治捐獻,接受捐獻者就包括奧巴馬及副總統拜登。

  白宮一名官員稱,蓋特納上周二得悉AIG發放花紅的事,周三傍晚向AIG行政總裁利迪表達憤怒,要求重新協商,周四知會總統奧巴馬,周五再與利迪通電,對方承諾改寫將來的花紅發放條款。然而,蓋特納始終無法遊說利迪取消上周五發放的花紅,他做得是否足夠飽受質疑,辭職的流言蜚語不脛而走。

  皮尤研究中心18日公布上周一至周四進行的民意調查,發現奧巴馬支持度從上月的64%跌至現時的59%。
古箏人 回複 悄悄話 拿中國人民的血汗錢當手紙。這些錢從哪裏來的?
楓紅滿山 回複 悄悄話 最可笑的是麥道夫的窩案,最終可能由其一力承擔。這世上,其實無需遮遮掩掩,有利益分配的所在,腐敗在所難免,隻是老美富得流油時,大家開心,開心就開恩。現在緊縮了,問題還在後麵。
無忌哥哥 回複 悄悄話 隻管折騰吧。
石頭人 回複 悄悄話 非法的貪汙可惡,合法的貪汙更可惡。實質應該修改《破產法》,有連帶責任才行,企業破產,相應高管也應隨之破產。
zuanzuan 回複 悄悄話 中國人是走後門、偷偷摸摸地幹不法的事,而美國人是走前門,明目張膽地幹不法的事!這就是中、美之間的最大差異!
Lyra 回複 悄悄話 都是在忽悠,事實是不做這樣的修改AIG根本就不接受救濟,AIG是光腳的,破產對那些高管來說也不是承受不了的事,但AIG破產後的爛攤子和對整體經濟的影響,政府會是吃不了兜著走,這次是AIG吃定了政府,沒別的辦法,不改行嗎?
s32842 回複 悄悄話 Obama競選總統時籌集到745M中,AIG送了100K。AIG還送錢給不少議員吧,議員們說這種事不知情豈不是荒唐。他們早就知道了,相互利用罷了。
關連 回複 悄悄話 發點兒獎金不是壞事。Bail out 是為了恢複市場,而不是為了讓政府擾亂市場。
789654 回複 悄悄話 I'v really got sick of this kind of essay.
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