前蘇聯軍官：我們是吃人肉活著的-English

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前蘇聯軍官：我們是吃人肉活著的
來源：中華網

在莫斯科廣播電台工作多年的維佳，退休後常與我聊天。這次說到一些他認識的老軍人們道出的鮮為人知的過去。例如：蘇聯衛國戰爭的時候，斯大林下令把監獄裏關的重刑犯人（10年至25年徒刑）全部放出來擔任殘忍的送死隊。專門讓他們到最危險回不來的地方去打仗送死，那些人90%以上都死掉了！

戰爭期間，許多壯年紅軍士兵解決不了性饑渴的問題。部隊唯一的女性就是護士或者醫生,但是除了當官的，士兵如果與護士發生關係或者強奸護士是要槍斃的。這些憋得登登的男人，就在戰場上尋找合法的機會。一位護士剛被打死了，身上冒著熱血、熱氣，大家立刻上去扒掉衣褲，輪流奸淫體溫尚存的屍體……

蘇聯進行氫彈爆炸試驗的時候，在計算的不同距離，放下坦克車、動物，遠一點的是大批身穿防化服的士兵組成人牆進行活體試驗。防化服裝的性能質量不可靠、不起作用，許多士兵當場斃命（核輻射後遺症多啦）。然後給家裏發信，編造光榮死亡的理由。

今年79歲，吃過人肉的退休軍官，中校巴夫洛維奇．童年的經曆真悲慘…“吃了很長時間”；“當時很多人都搶著吃，凡是吃的都活了出來，沒有吃人肉的大多數活活餓死了！”等等。這話特別震驚了我！

曆史上沒少聽到人吃人的傳說，也看過記載和報導，即使文革時期毛澤東的紅衛兵在廣西發生的人吃人有較翔實的記載報導，也仍然覺得是在報刊上的東西，沒有聽到，看到吃人者親自出來說話，總覺得相似神話，距離遙遠。這次聞知在身邊就有這種奇人奇事，所以決定抓緊采訪吃過
人的軍官。否則人世滄桑，幾年過去，現身說法沒有了，又變成了懸疑、“隻是聽說的”。

人肉是血腥的！我想。人吃人是很原始古老的事情，為什麽會發生在社會主義蘇聯？人肉好吃麽？怎麽樣吃人肉？帶著這些問題，2006年6月29日11點，我們去拜訪這位年事已高的退役軍官：亞曆山大．巴夫洛維奇中校（以下簡稱巴），身穿半袖衫便裝，精神矍鑠地站在樓下迎接我們。進入遠東軍區司令部軍官家屬樓，他與老伴的住宅進行采訪。

巴中校怎麽看也不超過70歲，似古書上所說的鶴發童顏。他不坐沙發，隻坐在對麵的凳子上，腰背挺直，特別有氣質。因為早知來意，願意公諸於世這段曆史，不需要我發問，他就侃侃而談。

“我父親的命運特別不好，被迫當兵參加第一次世界大戰。耶穌被釘在十字架上一次，他被釘上十字架兩次！那是在戰爭中被德軍俘虜。德軍對俄國戰俘管理寬鬆，一位戰友約他一起逃跑，被抓住了。按規定釘到十字架上兩小時懲罰。由於沒有找到釘子，改用繩子綁上雙臂。

第二次在女房東家密謀逃跑。這次12個人都被抓住了，全部上了十字架。十個人超越了極限，死去了，隻剩下了父親與另外一個人活下來。後來父親與女房東結婚，並且生了一個兒子，我的德國哥哥。當時的戰俘可以在德國隨便找女人結婚或者同居。

1923年德國決定遣返全部俄俘。父親雖然有了妻子兒子，也被遣返回俄。

蘇聯十月革命後，到處**，濫殺無辜，男人缺少。父親找了一位姑娘結婚生活。他們沒有房子，就到鄉下住在教堂的一間十幾平方米的飼料室內裏。出生了我們姊妹四個人：我是老大，餘下的三個是女兒。

“十月革命的破壞，經濟大蕭條，到處是饑荒。無產階級沒有吃的了，隻能喊口號了，列寧迫不得不放寬了政策；鼓勵農民增加糧食生產，使原始商品交換稍有恢複。到1932年，半數人能夠有飯糊口，半數人仍然在挨餓受凍。這是不錯的“新經濟時期”。

“1933年集體農莊運動開始了！蘇聯農民更大的苦難也就從那時候發生了。那一年深秋，從城裏派出大批工人黨員工作隊下鄉。他們的首要任務是征集糧食。按照黨中央命令，‘必須把農村的糧食全部征集上來，裝上火車運回城，解決城裏（由於隻顧革命了）出現的大饑荒和經濟蕭條。’工作隊不顧農村現狀。盲目確定指標，硬性規定每家必須繳納多少糧食，不管你有沒有吃的（實際上是到鄉下搶劫糧食），不按規定數量繳納糧食就地槍斃。

“農民有少數把活命糧食藏了起來的，‘無產階級先鋒隊’，‘工人老大哥’搜查出來一點，也要把人槍斃。（這可不是殺一儆百了，是殺死50%，鎮壓嚇傻另外50%，以便全部搶劫掠奪走）許多農民被先後打死啦。鄉村幾乎被共產黨摧毀了！”

“第二項任務是逼迫所有的農民‘誌願’加入集體農莊。凡聽從願意加入的，可以給一家人留下少量（不過一個月的口糧）；凡是不同意加入的，房屋糧食全部沒收，全家人驅逐出戶。對於前些年鼓勵農民發展生產，先富起來一點的農民，糧食房屋土地全部沒收，人被抓走或者殺頭，還要安上一個‘新富農’，人民的敵人的罪名。所以後來蘇聯人幾十年產生的惰性，有吃有喝就行了，大家集體貧窮，平均共產。就是那時的血腥教訓！”

“那一天我家進來了三名城裏來的共產黨。其中一個女的，上身穿著皮夾克，腰間挎著一把手槍。（巴中校比劃著手槍的位置）他們掃視了一下我們一貧如洗的家庭，沒有什麽值錢的東西，就動手翻動尋找糧食。家裏這幾天就要斷炊了，他們搜查出還可以供我們全家人吃兩天的大麥，全部裝入口袋；又在一個破木箱裏找到了一公斤多散雜糧食，也全部掃入口袋。母親看著四個嗷嗷待補的孩子，隻有這一點維持生命的口糧，就伸手爭奪，他們不還給，踢打推倒了妹妹和我，硬性搶劫。母親手裏抓住米袋子不放，用牙齒咬他們的手背。那個女的掏出手槍，雨點般地砸向母親的頭和臉，多處打開花，鮮血噴流。這時候他們三個人坐下來寫判決書。並當場宣讀：布爾甚維克法庭決定：抗拒交納糧食，一家人全部槍斃！

“他們分別掏出了手槍…在這最後時刻，是母親拯救了全家。她拚命地掙脫跑出屋外，大聲喊叫：‘共產黨員要殺我們了，共產黨員要殺我們全家了！’周圍農民紛紛拿著鐵鏟鐵叉跑過來把他們圍住了。互相對峙，兩名男人膽怯了，說：我們現在把他們處死，農民可能把我們也打死了。我們晚上再來執行槍決。說著他們就退卻了。什麽叫做殺人不眨眼？什麽叫做殺人如麻、草菅人命？什麽叫做搶劫掠奪，打家劫舍？什麽叫做沒有人性？世界上沒有超過共產黨的！

“好心眼的鄰居們告訴我們，紅色政權必然要來報複，讓我們趕快逃命。媽媽去找來了爺爺，他趕來一輛大馬車，讓我們全家人躺在車上，身上蓋上大麥草，然後向上麵裝了滿滿一大車牛糞。拉著我們出村莊。（六七十年後，我們兄妹相見，回憶當年死裏逃生，鼻子裏還有那時候全身浸透糞水留下的濃烈牛糞味道！巴中校用手摁一摁鼻子，似乎就在昨天。）

“村口外與人民為敵的“紅色政權”執勤崗哨反複探查，沒有發現破綻，認為隻是向田裏送糞，放過去了。全家人逃到深林裏，找到了一個廢棄的獵人臨時住的小窩棚貓下來。當時全家隻有一個大圓麵包，（巴中校比劃一下大小）我們分吃了兩天。

“過去了幾天，一點吃的也沒有了。爸爸說，‘我是判決書上寫著的人，出去就沒命了。你是我的大兒子，家裏的長子，你回村莊裏去尋找點兒吃的吧！’就交給我了一把斧頭，一個口袋。母親還是決定陪我同去。我們走了幾戶人家，人都沒有了。我自己到鄰居家，一看13歲的男孩子別佳死在屋子裏。就大喊‘媽媽，別佳死了！別佳死了！’（巴中校那凝重的敘述回憶，驚恐呼喊的眼神，與73年前童年時一模一樣，仍然懾人心魄！）媽媽讓我用斧頭砍下他的腿和胳膊回去吃。並且囑咐我，不能砍腦袋，那就不尊重死人了。我們拖著死人的胳膊和腿回到了森林裏。（注：整理采訪談話時發現“父親交給我了一把斧頭，一個口袋”，是否意味著原來就確定了尋找砍死人用的？我後來打電話核對村莊的俄文名字，卻怎麽也不忍心詢問這個動機。）

“從此吃死去的人肉，這是我們唯一能夠找到的活命食品。６歲的我（1927年出生）從此負擔起養護全家六口人的重擔！我每天出去尋找屍體砍下肢體背回來。有一次一條活活餓死的牛，隻有皮包骨頭，扔在了村莊邊。我發現牛肚子已經被狼撕著吃了，就砍大腿砍脖子皮。

“這時候已經進入冬天了,氣溫在零下25℃～30℃。寒冷異常，村莊裏被無產階級先鋒隊槍殺死了和餓死的人比比皆是，露天扔在村外無人掩埋，變成冷凍僵屍。半年的長冬，我每天出去尋找屍體和新打死、餓死的人。那時候宣判執行槍決的人家，逃跑出來了部份，躲藏到深林裏和其它地方。尋找死人吃活命，是大家唯一的出路。人吃人者已經成幫結夥了。每當村莊裏向外扔死人的時候，我們大家趴伏在遠處瞧著，等著，等他們走遠了，我們一擁而上，紛紛砍剁軟綿綿的皮肉……

“一年以後，在一個農莊擔任文書的舅舅，給父親謀職了一個偏僻的山林作護林人，我們才在那裏搭起來兩間草窩棚棲身。

“在那兩三年的期間，躲藏無產階級專政在白雪覆蓋的深山老林，凡是不吃人的都活活餓死了；依靠吃死人的才可能活了下來。不留情的鎮壓，剝奪和搶劫，真正的民不聊生。”巴中校提高了說話的語氣和份量：“我雖然長期吃人肉，但是我可以保證—我沒殺死過一個活人，沒有吃過活人！”

維佳幫著解釋：他一生特別痛恨列寧和斯大林滅絕人性的政策！

我問他：“人肉好吃麽？”他正色、肯定地回答：“好吃”！

采訪前我想詢問一下，人肉香不香？怎麽一個吃法？麵對著共產曆史的受害幸存者，頑強不屈的求生者，食人肉吃僵屍是為了活命，這些話還怎麽能問得出口？怎麽能夠再傷害他的心靈！幾天、幾個月的屍體，病餓死，槍殺的屍體都要找回來吃，哪裏會是什麽美味佳肴，僅圖活命而已。還能夠談上炒菜，烹調或者下酒麽？如果再問他見了死屍害怕不害怕？那更是多餘的了！現在我能夠想像得出，一個被迫“早熟”的少年兒童，手上、衣服上長年都是汙血，不能洗手，沒有衣服可換；一定不如現在屠宰場工作的工人身上穿的工作服……

全家人甚至沒有棉衣、棉被禦寒。冰天雪地的天亮爬起來，麵對著外麵堆放的死人斷肢殘臂，告罄了還是夠一天果腹；住處周圍，堆積如山是人的骨頭；一個少年兒童在過膝深，甚至齊腰深的大雪中，掙紮出來奔向遠方，尋找各種麵孔痛苦死亡的屍體，砍成拿得動的小塊拖回來，能再問他‘當時害怕不’？把巴中校的悲慘童年，什麽樣的小說作家也想像、描寫描寫不出來的！

1989 年在阿穆爾州，一位華裔的房東，70多歲的俄羅斯老太太，曾經向我說，30年代，饑餓的人們在自己土地裏挖出一個生土豆吃，立刻被處死！我現在才懂得了它的份量。（按：集體農莊，共產主義道路本來是個死胡同，在30年代就已經看得分明了。可是中國的毛澤東在20年後亦步亦趨蘇聯領導人的反人民政策，也在中國強行推行合作化和後來的“人民公社”—集體農莊的翻版。毀壞了中國的農業，使人們多少年得不到溫飽，生活在饑寒交迫中。還要異想天開地搞“大躍進”—實際上的大倒退。後來餓死了幾千萬人，也發生了人吃人。如果當年有這位蘇聯老大哥現身說法，了解到真實情況和後果，也許能夠早收斂起禍國殃民的政策？）

巴中校接著說，“被共產黨槍決打死的人和活活餓死了的人，太多太多了！衛國戰爭期間，人們都沒有那個時期挨餓、困苦，朝不保夕。這就是走‘集體農莊’道路。

“除了城裏派來的共產黨員工作隊，當地農莊的少數布爾甚維克黨員，也加入他們的行列，配合幫助行凶搶劫。村莊裏一多半人被打死或者餓死了…能對付活下來的，都是皮包著骨頭的骷髏，刮大風一定能夠把人吹倒！

“後來知道，確實有少數人成功地隱藏了自己的口糧。他們在工作隊掘地三尺搜查的空檔，把糧食裝到袋子裏，沉入河底。躲藏了過去。”

你們那個村莊有多少人？叫什麽名字？在什麽地方？

“有幾萬人——最少兩萬人以上。（維佳插話：那時候的村莊大！）村莊在伏爾加格勒，歸薩拉托夫市管轄，名字叫吉亞切夫斯卡。”

說到後來：“媽媽曾經給一戶富裕的家庭當過女傭，那戶有見識的人家告訴媽媽，‘想方設法讓兒子讀書吧！’媽媽牢記住這一條出路，把我前後送到遠處10幾個農莊，更名改姓10多次，終於在建築大學畢業。我報名當了兵，經過考試授少尉軍銜。是部隊的建築工程師。25年的部隊生涯領導了好多規模宏大的建設工程。

“1951年開發軍事工業新城市‘共青城’，我們到那裏。認識了我的太太，我們結了婚。”他的太太看著我在攝影記錄，就找出了他在部隊穿的軍裝：肩牌上兩條杠兩顆星，胸前掛滿了各種勳章。太太幫助他穿上，軍官的威武莊嚴立刻顯現出來，英雄不減當年。讓我繼續攝影、拍照。

“我們是同齡人”，他的太太卓婭說。“我們家在毗鄰新西伯利亞的阿爾泰地區，名字叫做茨別那依郭勒斯克。那裏是高寒地區，冬天的最低氣溫可以達到-60℃。

“我父親是最勤勞能幹的農民。‘新經濟政策’的幾年裏，父親蓋起了四間大房子，母親前後生養了我們12個女兒，父親讓她再生，第13個是個男孩子，我們的弟弟。養育15口之家，能夠生活富裕多不簡單！是‘十月革命後’幸存農村中的能人。

“1933年同樣的罪惡政策也施行到我們那裏。父親被定為“新富農”。全家人被掃地出門。房屋財產全部沒收，誰讓你敢在共產時期先富起來？父親逃到深山裏,免遭處死。

“母親帶領我們13個無家可歸的孩子，躲藏到城市潮濕陰暗的地下室裏，後來孩子們陸續大了一點，就送到了孤兒院。父親東躲西藏還是被抓住。讓他到軍隊前線“送死隊”。還算幸運，父親由於能幹會做飯當了夥夫。一次大事故燙傷了雙腿，才活著回來了…”

79歲的安娜，是位美女。去年在大街上與姊妹穿著自己裁縫的夏裝，順路參觀服裝設計比賽，被評委發現是最合體的老年時裝，發給最佳設計縫紉獎勵。

這位“新富農”的女兒，天生遺傳基因就是能吃苦、能幹。蘇聯解體以後，年近70歲的她,肩扛手提當“倒娘”，一趟又一趟的跑中國綏芬河,買貨回來賣,硬是為50多歲的兒子買下了一套房子！現在的退休金每月4,000盧布，丈夫6,000盧布。

把曆史、真實的經曆如實地講述出來，巴中校如釋重負。顯得鬆了一口氣。我告訴他們，讓世人們知道這一段秘聞，也是對曆史的貢獻和交代。
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Former Soviet Union military officers: We are eat the person meat to live 
 
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Former Soviet Union military officers: We are eat the person meat to live
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Works many year Uygur in the Moscow broadcasting station to be good, after the retirement often chats with me. The rarely known past which this time speaks of which some him to know the old soldier people says. For example: Soviet war of national defense time, Stalin issues an order Heavy penalty the criminal which closes the jail in (10 years to 25 years imprisonment) completely to emit holds the post the cruel The road of the death is chosen. 
team. Specially lets them to the place which dangerously does not come back go to war The road of the death is chosen. , these people above 90% all died!

War period, many mature red sergeants were killed by weapons in no way the hunger thirsty question. The army only females are the nurse or doctor, but except is an official, the soldier if has the relations with the nurse or rapes the nurse is wants to shoot. These suppress the man which ascends, in on the battlefield seeks the legitimate opportunity. A nurse has been just killed, on the body is braving, the steam warm-blooded, everybody comes up immediately digs up the clothing, rapes the body temperature still remaining corpse in turn... ...

Soviet Union carries on the H-bomb blast experiments, in the computation different distance, lays down the tank, the animal, far is large quantities of wears　Prevention radiation clothes the soldier composes the human wall to carry on the living specimen experiment. The chemical defense clothing performance quality unreliable, does not play the role, many soldiers on the scene are killed violently (nuclear radiation sequela to be many). Then sends a letter for the family in, compiles the honorable death the reason.

This year 79 years old, eat the person meat retired military officer, the lieutenant colonel Baf Luo river Uygur wonderful. childhood experience have been really pitiful... "Has eaten the very long time"; "At that time very many people all snatched are eating, every was eats has all lived, has not eaten the person meat the majority while still alive to starve to death!" . This saying has specially shocked me!

In the history not little hears to the inhuman fable, also has looked at the record and the report, even if the Great Cultural Revolution time Mao Zedong's red guard occurs inhumanly in Guangxi has a fuller more and accurate record to report, also still thought was in the publication thing, has not heard, saw eats the person personally to come out speaks, always thought the similar myth, is away from remotely. This time learned by hearsay has this kind of outstandingly able person unusual happening in the side, therefore the decision grasps to interview has eaten
Human's military officer. Otherwise the enormous changes wrought by time, several years past, did not offer one's experiences as an example, also turned has hung doubts, "only is hears".

The person meat is a rank smell of blood! I thought. Inhuman is the very primitive ancient matter, why can occur in socialism Soviet Union? The person meat is delicious? How eats the person meat? Is bringing these questions, on June 29, 2006 11 o'clock, we visit this old retired officers: The Alexander. Baf Luo river Uygur wonderful lieutenant colonel (hereafter refers to as Pakistan), wears Half sleeve　the unlined upper garment casual attire, the spirit healthily stands under the building greets us. Enters far east military area command headquarters military officer family member building, he carries on the interview with spouse's housing.

How did the Pakistan lieutenant colonels look does not surpass 70 years old, resembles  White hair young face　which in the ancient book said. He does not sit the sofa, only sits on the opposite stool, the lumbodorsal region is stiff, specially has the makings. Because early knows the purpose in coming, is willing to make public this phase of history, does not need me to ask a question, he speaks with confidence.

"My father's destiny is not specially good, is compelled to become a soldier to attend the First World War. Jesus sews on the cross, he by nail on cross two! That is in the war by the German armed force captive. The German armed force manages loosely to the Russian prisoner of war, ally approximately he together escapes, is held. According to stipulates the nail to the cross on two hours penalties. Because had not found the nail, changes to the string to tie up the double arm.

Second time conspires in the female room master to escape. This 12 individual have been all held, completely has gotten up the cross. Ten had personally surmounted the limit, had died, was only left over the father to live down with other person. Afterwards the father and the female landlord married, and has lived a son, my German elder brother. Then prisoner of war was allowed casually to ask the woman in Germany to marry or to live together.

In 1923 Germany decided repatriates completely the Russia prisoners of war. The father although had the wife son, also is repatriated Russia.

After Soviet Union the October Revolution, everywhere **, the wanton slaugter is innocent, the man lacks. The father asked a girl to marry the life. They do not have the house, arrives the countryside to live inside a church several square meter feeds room. Has been born our sisters four people: I am an eldest child, -odd under three are the daughters.

"The October Revolution destruction, the economy greatly is bleak, everywhere is the famine. The proletariat has not eaten, only can shout the slogan, Lenin has compelled can not but relax the policy; Encourages the farmer to increase the grain production, enable the primitive commodity exchange slightly to have the restoration. To 1932, half number of people could have the food to get by, half number of people still were suffering from hunger and cold. This is good "the new economical time".

"In 1933 the collective farm movement started! Soviet farmer bigger misery also on from that time occurred. That year late autumn, sends out the large quantities of workers party member work team from the city to go to the country. Their most important task collects the grain. Orders according to the Central Party Committee, ' must completely collect the countryside grain, installs the train to ship back the city, in the solution city (because considered only revolutionized) the big famine and the economy which appeared is bleak.' The work team does not give a thought to the countryside present situation. The blind determination target, firm decision each must pay how much grain, no matter you do have eat (are in fact rob grain to countryside), does not pay the grain according to the stipulation quantity to shoot.

"The farmer had minority hides the life grain has gotten up, ' the vanguard of the Proletariat ', ' the worker elder brother ' searched, also had to shoot the person. (This certainly to be sure killed as soon as warns hundred, was kills 50%, suppression scareds out of one's wits other 50%, in order to completely robbed plunders) many farmers successively to kill. The village has been nearly destroyed by the communist party!"

"The second duty is forces all farmers ' the wish ' to join the collective farm. Every obeys is willing to join, may few leave behind (only month-long grain ration) to the whole family; Every is did not agree joins, the house grain completely confiscates, the whole family pursues the household. Encourages the farmer regarding a front year to expand the production, gets rich first a farmer, the grain house land completely confiscates, the person is seized or decapitates, but also must install ' the new rich farmer ', people's enemy's charge. Therefore afterwards the Soviet several dozens years produced the inertia, had eats has drinks good, everybody collective poor, the average was communist. Is at that time rank smell of blood lesson!"

"That day my family has come in the communist party which in three famous cities comes. Female, on wears the leather jacket, the waist is carrying on the arm a pistol. (The Pakistan lieutenant colonels gesticulated pistol position) they to take a fast look around our penniless family, nothing was worth the money the thing, began to change seeks the grain. In the family these days needed to run out of rice and firewood, they searched also may supply our whole family to eat two day-long barley, completely loaded the pocket; Also found more than a kilogram in a broken wooden crate to disperse the mixed grain, also completely sweeps into the pocket. The mother looks four the child which clamor treats makes up, only has this point to maintain the life the grain ration, puts out a hand to capture, they not also give, Kicks the person to hit the person

 has overthrown the younger sister and I, the rigidity robs. The mother personally in holds the rice bag not to put, nips their hand back with the tooth. That female pulls out the pistol, like raindrops pounds to mother's head and the face, are many place opens the flower, the blood jet. This time they three people sit down write the written judgement. And on the scene reads out: A Bull really Uygur gram court decided that, The resistance pays the grain, the whole family completely shoots!

"They have separately pulled out the pistol... In this final time, was the mother has saved entire family. She desperately works loose runs outside the room, loudly yells: ' The communist party member had to kill us, the communist party member had to kill our entire family!' Periphery the farmer took The iron does shovel the broach to run in abundance spheres them. Mutually confronts, two men have been timid, said: We now execute them, the farmer possibly also killed us. We evening again carry out execute by shooting. Was saying they retreated. What is called kills without batting an eye? What is called the murder like hemp, has complete disregard for human life? What is called robs plundering, plunders? What is called does not have the human nature? In the world has not surpassed the communist party!

"The good mind neighbors tell us, the red political power inevitably needs to retaliate, lets us quickly escape. Mother looked for grandfather, he rushed for a big horse-drawn vehicle, let our whole family lie down on the vehicle, on body top head big wheat straw, then has installed completely full large cart cow dung to above. Is pulling our village. After (670 years, our Brother, younger sister meets, the recollection same year was saved from death, in the nose also had that time whole body to soak the strong cow dung flavor which the excrement water stayed behind! The Pakistan lieutenant colonels press with the hand the nose, as if on in yesterday.)

"Outside the village the red political power" performs duties the sentry post with the people for the enemy "repeatedly to investigate, has not discovered the flaw, thought only is to the field in Transportation muck to paddies, let off. The whole family runs away to the deep forest in, the small shack cat which found the hunter which abandons temporarily to live to get down. At that time entire family only had a great-circle bread, (the Pakistan lieutenant colonel gesticulated size) our minute to eat two days.

In the past "several days, have eaten also do not have. The daddy said that, ' I am in the written judgement is writing a person, exited dies. You are my eldest son, in family's eldest son, you return to in the village to seek to eat!' Gave me an axe, a pocket. The mother or the decision accompanies me to go together. We walked several household others, the people all did not have. I to neighbouring home, as soon as looked 13 year-old boy don't good dies in the room. Shouted ' mother, don't good died! Has don't good died!' (Pakistan lieutenant colonel that dignified narration recollection, panic-stricken shouts look,

with 73 years ago when childhood is entirely alike, still Deterrent person heart and soul!) Mother lets me use the axe to chop his leg and the arm goes back eats. And exhorts me, cannot chop the head, that did not respect the deceased person. We were towing deceased person's arm and the leg returned to in the forest. (Note: When reorganization interview conversation discovered "the father gave me an axe, a pocket", whether meant originally had determined sought hacks to death the person to use? I afterwards made the phone call to check the village Russian name, actually how wasn't cruel enough to inquires this motive.)

"Henceforth eats the person meat which died, this is life food which we only can find. 6 year-old I (in 1927 was born) henceforth bear maintain entire family six people's heavy burdens! I exit every day seek the corpse to chop the body back to come back. Some while still alive starves to death the cow, only has skinny, threw nearby the village. I discovered the tripe is already ripped by the wolf has been eating, chops the thigh to chop the neck skin.

"This time already entered the winter, temperature in below zero 25 ℃ ~ 30 ℃. Cold exceptionally, in the village is killed the person which and starves to death everywhere by the vanguard of the Proletariat gun, open-air has thrown outside the village nobody buries, turns the freezing corpse. Half year long winter, I exit every day seek the person which the corpse and newly kills, starves to death. That time judged the execution executes by shooting others, escaped the part, hid to the deep forest in and other places. Seeks the deceased person to eat the life, is everybody only outlet. Inhuman already Cheng Bangjie partner. Whenever in the village throws deceased person's time to outside, our everybody lies prone bends down in the distant place is looking, is waiting, waited for them to walk far, we closed in on, chopped in abundance chops the soft body... ...

"After during a year, holds the post of the copy clerk in a village the uncle, sought employment a remote wooded mountain to the father to be the forest protection person, we only then put up two grasses shacks in there to roost the body.

"In that 23 years period, hides the proletariat dictatorship in the white snow cover remote mountains and ancient forests, every was does not eat the person all while still alive to starve to death; The dependence ate the deceased person only then possibly to live down. Is not forgiving the suppression, deprives and robs, is true The people cannot obtain food." The Pakistan lieutenant colonels enhanced the expression and the component which speaks: "I although eat the person meat for a long time, but I may guarantee - I have not killed a live person, has not eaten earns a living the person!"

Uygur good is helping the explanation that, He one other hates Lenin and Stalin's inhuman policy!

I ask him: "The person meat is delicious?" He orthochromatic, definitely replied that, "Delicious"!

Before the interview I want to inquire, the person meat fragrance is not fragrant? How does eat the law? Is suffering injury the survivor facing the communist history, tenacious unyielding seeking livehood, eats the person meat to eat the corpse is for maintain a livelihood, how can these speeches also ask the exportation? How can again injure him the mind! Several days, several month-long corpses, sickness starves to death, the corpse which guns down all must retrieve eats, where can be any delicacy delicacies, only attempts the life. Also can discuss the stir-fried dish, the cooking or drinks? If again asked he saw the corpse fear not to be afraid? That was unnecessary! Now I can imagine obtain, is compelled "to be precocious" the youth, in on the hand, clothes the elders all is the dirt blood, cannot wash the hands, does not have clothes to be possible to trade; Certainly was inferior to present slaughter house work on the labor person puts on work clothes... ...

The whole family does not even have the cotton-padded jacket, the cotton-wadded quilt protection against the cold. The world of ice and snow dawn crawls, facing the deceased person which outside piles up is cutting off limb the remnant arm, ran out or has sufficed one day to have a full stomach; Around the dwelling, piles up is person's bone; A youth has been deep in the knee, even in the waist high heavy snow, struggles rushes to the distant place, seeks each kind of face pain death the corpse, hews the scrap which takes moves to haul back, can again ask he ' was not afraid at that time '? The Pakistan lieutenant colonel's pitiful childhood, any type novel writer also imagines, the description cannot describe!

In 1989 in the armour state, a person of Chinese descent's landlord, over 70 year-old Russian old women, once said to me that, the 30's, the hungry people dig out a fresh potato in the oneself land to eat, is executed immediately! I have now only then understood its component. (Presses: The collective farm, the communism path originally is an impasse, already looked in the 30's distinctly. But China's Mao Zedong blindly follow suit the Soviet leader's against the people policy after 20 years, also forcefully carried out the movement to organize cooperatives in China and afterwards "the people's commune" - the collective farm reprint.

Has destroyed China's agriculture, enable the people how many year not to be able to obtain the warm and sufficient condition, lives in suffering hunger and cold. Also must indulgently do "the Great Leap Forward" - in fact great retrogression. Afterwards has starved to death several ten million people, also has occurred inhumanly. If the same year had this Soviet elder brothers to offer one's experiences as an example, understood perhaps the real situation and the consequence, could early restrain the policy which brought disaster on the nation and the people?)

The Pakistan lieutenant colonels then said that, "is executed by shooting by the communist party which kills the person and has while still alive starved to death the person, too many too were many! War of national defense period, the people all do not have that time to starve, to be poverty-stricken, are in a precarious state. This is walks ' the collective farm ' the path.

"Communist party member work team which sends except the city in, local village minority Boolean really Uygur gram party member, also joins their ranks, the coordinate help commits murder robs. In the village the majority person is killed or has starved to death... Can cope with lives down, all is the handbag bone skeleton, blows the gale certainly to be able to blow down the person!

"Afterwards knew that, truly had the minority person's successfully to hide own grain ration. They dig three feet searches neutral gears in the work team, installs the grain to the bag in, sinks to the river bottom. Has hidden."

How many people does your village have? What name is called? In what place?

"Above some several ten thousand people of - least 20,000 people. (Uygur good digression: That time village is big!) The village in Volgograd, turns over to the sarah to hold the husband city jurisdiction, the name to be called the lucky Asian Cheves card."

Spoke of afterwards: "Mother once gave a household wealthy family to work as the maid, that household has had the experience others to tell mother, ' did everything possible to let the son study!' Mother firmly remembers this outlet, delivers me around the distant place 10 several villages, changes the name to change surname 10 many times, finally in the construction university graduation. I register work as the soldier, has given second lieutenant after the test the military rank. Is the army constructs engineer. 25 years army profession has led many broad in scale construction projects.

"In 1951 developed the war industry new city ' altogether the blue city ', we to there. Had known my wife, we married." His wife looks I in the photographic recording, have discovered him the military uniform which puts on in the army: On the shoulder sign two bars two stars, in front of the chest have hung all over each kind of medal. Wife helps him to put on, military officer's military might dignified appears immediately, hero now as much as ever. Let me continue to photograph, to photograph.

"We are the contemporaries", his Ms. Zhuo Ya said. "Our family is adjoining the new Siberia's Ahl peaceful area, the name is called tribulus that not to depend on Guo LaSCK. There is the high and cold area, the winter lowest temperature may achieve -60 ℃.

"My father is the most industrious competent farmer. ' New economic policy ' in during several years, the father built four big houses, around the mother has given birth to our 12 daughters, the father has let her regenerate, 13th was a boy, our younger brother. Raises 15 families, can live wealthily are many is not simple! After is ' the October Revolution ' fortunately survives in the countryside capable person.

"In 1933 the similar evil policy also executed our there. The father is decided as "the new rich farmer". The whole family makes a clean sweep. The house property completely confiscates, who lets you dare to get rich first in the communist time? The father runs away to the remote mountain in, avoids executes."The mother leads we 13 homeless children, hides to the city moist gloomy basement in, afterwards a children big point, has delivered the orphanage one after another. The father hides here and there or is held. Let him to the army front "Delivers the death road the team". Also calculates luckily, the father because is competent can prepare food has worked as the cook. A major accident has scalded the double leg, only then lived was coming back... "

79 year-old Anna, is the beautiful woman. Last year was putting on own tailor's summer clothing on the avenue with the sisters, visited the dress designing competition on the way, by the appraisal committee discovery was the most synthesis old age fashionable clothing, issued the best design tailoring reward.

This position "new rich farmer" the daughter, the inborn heredity gene is can endure hardship, be competent. After Soviet Union disintegrates, year nearly 70 year-old she, the shoulder shoulders portably works as "but actually the mother", runs the Chinese Suifen River, buys goods to sell, actually was over 50 year-old son has bought set of houses! Present retirement pension each month of 4,,000 rubles, husband 6,,000 rubles.

The history, the real experience truthfully narrate, the Pakistan lieutenant colonels feel relieved. Appeared a breathe sigh of relief. I tell them, lets the common people know this section of Peru heard, also is to the historical contribution and the confession.
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