問了下GPT 美國民間如何看 Y vs P

這個略有surpise, 印象中 Y和P 腳碰腳。 但GPT說  P 要強一丟丟

但“Princeton is often seen as more academically elite, while Yale is seen as more culturally elite”  -  這話沒毛病

看來 Y的T5 老五位置坐穩了。

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In the layman world of the U.S., Princeton and Yale are both seen as ultra-prestigious, but Princeton is often regarded slightly higher — especially when it comes to perceptions of intelligence, academic excellence, and exclusivity.

Here’s how the general public tends to compare them:


???? Princeton University:

  • Layman Perception: “Super elite, super smart, super hard to get into.”

  • Reputation: Known for being intellectually rigorous, especially in math, physics, economics, and philosophy.

  • Vibe: Quietly brilliant. Not flashy, but incredibly respected.

  • Fields Associated: Academia, economics, mathematics, theoretical sciences, public policy.

  • Cultural Role: Viewed as the most “academic” Ivy, with a very high-achieving but less-public-facing image.


Yale University:

  • Layman Perception: “Elite, prestigious, maybe artsy or political.”

  • Reputation: Known for law, politics, humanities, and the arts.

  • Vibe: Classy, intellectual, culturally rich — but not necessarily as academically intense as Princeton.

  • Fields Associated: Law, drama, literature, political leadership.

  • Cultural Role: Often associated with old money, secret societies (Skull and Bones), and the Ivy League mystique.


Layman Comparison:

Category Perceived Winner
Overall prestige Princeton (slightly)
Name recognition Roughly equal
Raw intelligence / academics Princeton
Law, politics, arts Yale
Social elitism / old money Yale
STEM / Theoretical fields Princeton
Presidential legacy Yale (Bushes, Clintons attended)

Summary:

Among laypeople, Princeton is often seen as more academically elite, while Yale is seen as more culturally elite.

So:

  • Princeton = “Smartest of the Ivies.” Quiet prestige, academic excellence, very hard to get into.

  • Yale = “Elite and influential.” A bit more visible in pop culture, especially in politics and the arts.


Verdict:

In terms of perceived prestige among the general public, Princeton usually edges out Yale, though both are solidly in the top tier of U.S. universities.
If someone says they went to either, the reaction will be “Wow!” — but Princeton might get a slight extra nod for being the most academically intense Ivy.

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P發音太拗口,電視裏一般說h, Yale,來代表top ivy:) -onward- 給 onward 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 08:54:06

其實不用問東問西的,隻要稍加留意,心中自有定論。 -BeagleDog- 給 BeagleDog 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:00:34

其實P -fantasticdream- 給 fantasticdream 發送悄悄話 fantasticdream 的博客首頁 (195 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:02:24

P應該是T10 的守門員, 配不上T5 -shaojianolian- 給 shaojianolian 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:54:34

Y以前是最藍的,甚至砍了自己的工學院;P因為IAS收留過一些落難天才 -米湯- 給 米湯 發送悄悄話 米湯 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:03:12

Y停了工程是最沒眼光的決定。IAS讓P大粘光了,雖然兩者沒有正式關係。 -youtub- 給 youtub 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:17:23

IAS 和P是獨立的,但不少IAS研究員在P帶研究生,比如witten在P的研究生大多在一流大學任教職。 -quantnj- 給 quantnj 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:53:38

我喜歡P, 女兒選了Y -nice898- 給 nice898 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:11:03

Y對一年級學生照顧得無微不至, 不知道P是怎樣的 -nice898- 給 nice898 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:12:38

咋無微不至啊? -成功的米菲兔- 給 成功的米菲兔 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:19:02

輔導員製度, 單間宿舍,幾人一組,。。。。。。 -nice898- 給 nice898 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:26:35

有名的residential college? -onward- 給 onward 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:32:06

家裏有其他 IVY 的孩子, 對比很強烈 :) -nice898- 給 nice898 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:35:02

應該差不多 -米湯- 給 米湯 發送悄悄話 米湯 的博客首頁 (201 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:19:48

學校關係不是很大。比如現在YC裏麵什麽學校都有,再後來就更沒差別了。 -onward- 給 onward 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:28:42

Yale NLP 相比P落後很多,對大部分人沒差別,對個別人差別大 -米湯- 給 米湯 發送悄悄話 米湯 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:39:15

這個對研究生影響多一些吧。一個學校不可能所有專業都強。 -onward- 給 onward 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:43:10

Y不少專業有+CS,在本科課程安排上還是很上心的。 -youtub- 給 youtub 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 11:14:33

P 好像壓力大一些 -nice898- 給 nice898 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:31:41

Y和P對學生的投入都是比較多的。P前兩年導師製,一個管10個左右。後兩年論文導師。 -quantnj- 給 quantnj 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:57:57

老百姓的想法: 王子當然比啞佬高貴! -wlwt123- 給 wlwt123 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:41:00

Y和P本科風格差不多。學生成份有些不同,P的stem占50%左右,Y大約1/3.Y的人文藝術專業學生多一些。 -quantnj- 給 quantnj 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 10:01:40

HPY三個學校我最喜歡P。 這個學校看著還算正經能學到東西。 Y太偏科。 H我就不說了。 -24橋明月夜- 給 24橋明月夜 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 10:17:00

Y 的理工科和 P 不在同一級別,當然文科 Y 更好 -STEMkid- 給 STEMkid 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 10:56:00

Y和P沒法對比 -seasnowman- 給 seasnowman 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 12:09:00

娃當初參觀了Y&P他就決定早申Y.Y早申收了後就沒申P. 娃對P沒興趣. -忘東忘西- 給 忘東忘西 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 22:12:55

碰到過兩位神經外科醫師. 男的P本科. 女的Y本科,女的還是Y history major畢業的. 女的技術好些. 本科 -忘東忘西- 給 忘東忘西 發送悄悄話 (42 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 22:25:14

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