剛有一位女生官宣P, 寫的句子是“announce my verbal commitment to the admissions process at P". 新聞底下的評論裏有一些關於Ivy (尤其是P)是怎麽處理recruit 的,教練權限,和academic 要求。 因為這裏常常有關於這方麵的猜測,所以引過來。
從運動水平來講,這個女孩曾是美國國青隊的。就是說,她有一項曾經在某年全美18歲及以下的所有女生中排前6.
這裏不涉及任何小中,純信息交流。
評論中主要涉及招生信息的帖子:
【 by 96swim】 I can only speak to how it works at Princeton. Each coach has a certain amount of recruiting spots that they are given each year. That does not mean that they can just take anyone. The admissions department screens them and lets the coaches know early in the process if a recruit is likely to be admitted, and the coaches probably have a pretty good sense of what academic numbers will get in. The recruit will get a likely letter early in the fall letting them know that they are likely to be admitted (all the Ivies do that). Once a coach gives a recruit that spot, they don’t get another spot if the recruit decides to go somewhere else. The academic standards are a lot closer to the academic standards for admittance of non-athletes than some of the earlier comments implied. The big difference is that so many strong candidates apply to the Ivies (and other top ranked schools) that even someone who has stellar credentials probably only has a 1 in 3 or worse chance of getting in. Having a coach give you a spot means than a kid with great credentials goes from being a possible admit to a lock. It doesn’t turn a kid with marginal academics into an Ivy league admit. The average recruited athlete’s academic credentials is far better than you might expect.
【by Paul Windrath】 Aside from the ~5% admission rate, the Ivy schools agree to allocate ~8 admission spots/class/gender to swimming/diving teams as long as the applicants meet the academic admission standards for all applicants and are able to manage the financial obligations as well. Beyond that, the team’s GPA is expected/required to exceed the school’s average GPA and are ranked against the other Ivy swim/dive teams. Negative performance affects the coach’s reviews each year.
So, while it suggests the coach can get someone/anyone they want, the candidate better be able to excel academically to meet the standards agreed to by the schools. Bringing in a team member who is sub-par academically significantly negatively affects the team and, therefore, is NOT in the best interest of the coach to do so.
【 by IvyStats 】 Just adding that these schools in my experience are need blind so they don’t consider your ability to pay, they’ll cover whatever demonstrated financial need you have just like any other student. These schools are very generous with grants (less often loans).
# of spots is also variable year to year. At my school and the schools where I was recruited, the athletic department as a whole had a certain # of spots but the number of swimming likely letters varied from year to year depending on how many the bigger sports needed (though it did usually average out to ~8).
I also know of several confirmed cases (though awhile ago) of someone verbally committing to these schools on the premise that they would likely be admitted, but the Admissions Office came back and didn’t clear them so they very quietly re-committed elsewhere. Usually still need an ACT 32+ or SAT mid-1400s.