去年EA Harvard AO 打分 overall 2分

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Academic Rating   2+

Extracurricular Rating 2

Athletic Rating            4

Personal Rating    2

 

Overall: 2 (假設第一個最大格子是 overall score)

校友 interview 2+ (校友EC 打分是 1-

校友interview 之後有一框,打分是 2+。 不知道是什麽。

 

其它還有幾個打分,不知道是什麽意思。 也都是2 (2+ or 2-).

兩個 AO 看起來基本一致。 評語很積極。但是 AO highlighted 的地方和我們原來想的(本壇排名)並非一致。有些差別。 甚至同一類EC, AO highlighted 的是低一級別的成績。

有些縮寫看不懂, 比如 AIV, FH?

 

打分和我們原來想的有些不一樣。比如EC部分,我們認為會比2高, 應該 1- or 至少2+. 看起來這個一分大刺二分刺也不好區分。 Personal Rating    2 這個有點超出預期。因為一般都說亞裔這這個方麵很容易被壓分。

總分2,四大類裏3個2分, 一個4分。 大數據說是 43-80% 錄取率。

看起來大學申請,家長和孩子的預判和實際都會有出入。 運氣成分很重要。 我們是運氣好,personal 部分也拿到2分,幸運地被錄取了。要不然兩個 2分估計錄取就懸了 

 

 

 

對打分分析

First, a breakdown of how Harvard's 4 main factors are assessed on a scale of 1-6 (1 being the best):

Academic Rating (0.5% of applicants get a 1, 42.3% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Summa potential. Genuine scholar; near-perfect scores and grades (in most cases) combined with unusual creativity and possible evidence of original scholarship.

  2. Magna potential: Excellent student with superb grades and mid-to-high-700 scores (33+ ACT).

  3. Cum laude potential: Very good student with excellent grades and mid-600 to low-700 scores (29 to 32 ACT).

  4. Adequate preparation. Respectable grades and low-to-mid-600 scores (26 to 29) ACT).

  5. Marginal potential. Modest grades and 500 scores (25 and below ACT).

  6. Achievement or motivation marginal or worse.

Difference between 1 and 2: You need to show academic excellence outside of just your grades and test scores in order to get a 1, most often through very prestigious academic competitions/awards and/or published research with a professor.

 

Extracurricular Rating (0.3% of applicants get a 1, 23.8% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Unusual strength in one or more areas. Possible national-level achievement or professional experience. A potential major contributor at Harvard. Truly unusual achievement.

  2. Strong secondary school contribution in one or more areas such as class president, newspaper editor, etc. Local or regional recognition; major accomplishment(s).[in another filing]: "Significant school, and possibly regional accomplishments: for example, an applicant who was the student body president or captain of the debate team and the leader of multiple additional clubs."

  3. Solid participation but without special distinction. (Upgrade 3+ to 2- in some cases if the e/c is particularly extensive and substantive.)

  4. Little or no participation.

  5. Substantial activity outside of conventional EC participation such as family commitments or term-time work (could be included with other e/c to boost the rating or left as a "5" if it is more representative of the student's commitment).

  6. Special circumstances limit or prevent participation (e.g. a physical condition).

Difference between 1 and 2: You have to achieve at a national/professional level in your activities in order to get a 1, simply being elite at a school or state level will not get you over a 2 in this category.

 

Athletic Rating (0.9% of applicants get a 1, 9.2% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Unusually strong prospect for varsity sports at Harvard, desired by Harvard coaches.

  2. Strong secondary school contribution in one or more areas; possible leadership role(s).

  3. Active participation.

  4. Little or no interest.

  5. Substantial activity outside of conventional EC participation such as family commitments or term-time work (could be included with other e/c to boost the rating or left as a "5" if it is more representative of the student's commitment).

  6. Physical condition prevents significant activity.

Difference between 1 and 2: Being recruited for a sport will get you a 1 here, but you can still help out your case a lot by being a strong non-recruited high school athlete and qualifying for a 2.

 

Personal Rating (0.0% of applicants -- or below 50 total every year -- get a 1, 20.8% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Outstanding

  2. Very Strong

  3. Generally Positive

  4. Bland or somewhat negative or immature

  5. Questionable personal qualities

  6. Worrisome personal qualities

Difference between 1 and 2: Way too vague to tell for sure, but some traits I often heard from Harvard alumni interviewers for students that received a 1 are "seemed like they would be amazing friends for their classmates", "didn't appear to treat college like a competition for grades", "wouldn't be intimidated by other bright and active people", and "memorable even 20-30 years later." Essentially, you must stand out as a person everyone wants to be around (which is highly subjective)... how you do that is really a unique thing for everyone

 

 

Chances of admission to Harvard based on these ratings:

Candidates who Excel in One Dimension:

  1. Academic rating of 1, no other 1s: 68% admission rate

  2. Extracurricular rating of 1, no other 1s: 48% admission rate

  3. Personal rating of 1, no other 1s: 66% admission rate

  4. Athletic rating of 1, no other 1s: 88% admission rate

 

Multi-Dimensional (or "well-rounded") Candidates:

  1. Three ratings of 2, one rating of 3 or 4: 43% admission rate

  2. Four ratings of 2: 68% admission rate

 

Weaker Candidates:

  1. No ratings of 1 or 2: 0.1% admission rate

所有跟帖: 

感謝分享。看來你家娃體育占分很高? -HappyWed- 給 HappyWed 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:43:54

分數越低越好。樓主家體育應該一般。但個性給分很高。 -Rockeymountain- 給 Rockeymountain 發送悄悄話 Rockeymountain 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:49:15

我也是看了半天才看明白,原來分數越低越好。 -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:55:49

學習了。 -小團員- 給 小團員 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 18:49:36

體育1分是recruit級別,會有88%的錄取率,隻要成績達標,估計就給錄取了。 -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:56:32

原來如此 -HappyWed- 給 HappyWed 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:02:27

我估計藤校對於recruit體育生的成績要求最起碼是unweighted3。0以上,SAT1200以上。 -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (66 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:09:48

當然我的估計可能過低,實際錄取要求也看當年申請的人群。 -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:10:53

看來體育recruit的平均SAT也快到1400了。 -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:08:10

謝謝分享。一直好奇聽說藤校每個category打分,原來是這麽打的。以前亞裔的personality低分低, -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (49 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:59:12

這就是我前些日子說的“無懸念進H”的牛蛙家爸爸 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:05:09

overview 打分錄取幾率 -forestbamboo- 給 forestbamboo 發送悄悄話 (7657 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:05:11

對於H來講,大數據是用來掩蓋各種貓膩的。根本沒有什麽幾率而言 -avw- 給 avw 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:34:32

看來那個 EC 獎項 排名全是胡扯 -STEMkid- 給 STEMkid 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:24:00

應該不是全部沒用,隻是可能大學評分比這個排名複雜 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:50:35

你怎麽得出EC都是胡扯? -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:53:51

樓主家7以上的獎項有3,4個,我記得。所以EC這部分給分偏低,估計還有更複雜的因素在rating中起作用 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:58:49

什麽是“7以上的獎項有3,4個”?你指的是樓主的孩子有national level的EC獎項有3-4個? -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:06:00

我記得是這樣的,所以校友麵試EC給了1-。這個牛蛙就是去年樓主說缺課收到學校發的信息的那個,GPA全年級第二 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:07:15

以前有個 EC 獎項的打分,7 分以上算是大獎 USAMO 級別的 -STEMkid- 給 STEMkid 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:09:00

我估計還有個縱向比較,比如正好有一個IMO的申請H,AMO的得分就會變低 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:10:48

現在這個就是得分1吧。隻有0。3%的申請人得到1的分數,而23%的申請人都得到EC2的分數。 -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:25:43

1比2不是更好? -Pilsung- 給 Pilsung 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:07:06

非常難得到1,overall,估計 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:09:31

哦哦 -兩女寶媽- 給 兩女寶媽 發送悄悄話 兩女寶媽 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:13:03

2比2+ 好 -Bebe54321- 給 Bebe54321 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:28:08

推薦信打分呢?校友interview的weight並不重。 -ccb168- 給 ccb168 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:30:00

分數越低越好,但好像2+又比2-好。 -ccb168- 給 ccb168 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:31:00

personal 分數好說明essay體現的personali好? -ccb168- 給 ccb168 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:36:00

除了特招,體育在H的錄取中並不重要。我們學校去H的基本都沒有體育的。 -ccb168- 給 ccb168 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:19:00

多謝分享,要是能知道得了什麽類別的大獎就更好了 -newmom-- 給 newmom- 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:19:59

感謝分享! -newca- 給 newca 發送悄悄話 newca 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:21:16

讚,終於看見一個有營養的帖子 -Gl4ll- 給 Gl4ll 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 17:55:56

這個分析是不是太友好了啊。 -randomness- 給 randomness 發送悄悄話 (160 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 18:38:31

應該是標準和列出來的不一樣。得2分估計也不容易。 比如你SAT滿分,選最難得課,GPA領先沒有其它 spike 估計最多 -forestbamboo- 給 forestbamboo 發送悄悄話 (76 bytes) () 11/25/2023 postreply 11:46:39

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