美國防新聞周刊∶台將宣布自製潛艦
［駐美特派員曹鬱芬／華府十三日報導］美國國防新聞周刊今天引用一位台灣前國防官員的話說，台灣今年八月可望正式對外宣布，要自製潛艦。
包括美國國防部前台灣科長石明凱還有台灣前海基會董事長陳長文，近來都公開鼓吹台灣應利用工業合作模式自製潛艦。
一位要求匿名的前美國官員向本報表示，布希政府當初同意售台八艘柴油潛艦時，就以在台製造為優先考量，因此當台灣軍方要求美國重開柴油潛艦生產線時，會遭到美國海軍的重重阻力。如果台灣決定潛艦國造，美國可以采用當年協助經國號戰機生產的模式，技術上不會有問題。
國防新聞周刊的報導表示，布希總統2001年同意售台八艘潛艦，但在美國不願生產柴油潛艦，同時台灣需要在不景氣情況創造就業機會等考量下，台灣顯然已決定要自製潛艦。不過美國的技術協助還是必要的。
前台灣國防官員告訴國防新聞周刊，如果巴基斯坦、南韓與日本都可以造潛艦，台灣當然也可以。一位前美國官員則表示，台灣造艦不是問題，而是能夠做出多精密成熟的潛艦。台灣的中船公司2001年曾爭取潛艦國造，但未得到國防部支持。
報導說，美國曾於2003年向台灣提供價值20億美元的八艘義大利製蘇諾級（Sauro-class）舊柴油潛艦，但台灣堅持要新船，拒絕這項建議。
報導也指出，台灣的拉法葉巡防艦將於2011至2012年開始升級，但由於弊案糾纏，這次升級將采用台灣自製的指管通情係統而不再使用法國係統。至於現有的RIM-72C海叢防空係統，則可能被雷神公司的RIM-116或天劍二型防空係統所取代。
Taiwan To Build Own Diesel Subs
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4035332
By wendell minnick
Published: 13 April 2009
Taipei - Taiwan appears to have given up on a 2001 U.S. offer of eight diesel submarines and instead will develop an indigenous vessel, although U.S. technical support may still be needed, a former Taiwan defense official said. An announcement is expected in August, sources here said.
Sources say the move is due to U.S. reluctance to build diesel submarines and the need to create jobs in Taiwan's economically depressed shipbuilding industry.
"If Pakistan, South Korea and Japan can build a submarine, then Taiwan can do it," said the former defense official.
The Ministry of National Defense (MND) also plans to upgrade its six French-built LaFayette-class (Kang Ding-class)frigates and procure two additional minesweeper patrol vessels from the United States.
Taiwan procured four U.S. Aggressive-class minehunters in 1994, and there are discussions about acquiring two U.S. Osprey-class coastal minehunters.
The U.S. submarine offer has faced political hurdles here and in Washington. The United States was expected to release a Foreign Military Sales notification for the first phase of the program in 2008, but the release was deferred to the next administration for unknown reasons. The first phase, or design stage, was expected to cost $360 million. The second phase, or build stage, was estimated at $10 billion.
Taiwan's earlier insistence on new submarines has been a focal point of controversy and complication. The United States has not built new diesel submarines since the Barbel-class in 1959, and Taiwan's insistence on new boats has only increased the challenge.
The United States offered Taiwan a cost-effective solution in 2003 when Italy offered to sell eight decommissioned Sauro-class diesel submarines for only $2 billion. Delivery would have begun in 2006 after the United States refurbished the vessels. However, Taiwan rejected the offer and continued to insist on new submarines.
Further complicating the issue, a special budget for submarines was held up in the legislature for six years due to political infighting between elements supporting independence from China and others supporting unification.
"Any move by the Ma administration to examine alternative acquisition routes for diesel submarines should be welcomed," a former Pentagon official said.
However, many ask whether the self-governing island can build a complex platform like a submarine.
"The question is not whether Taiwan can or cannot make submarines. Colombian drug runners can make submarines," the former Pentagon official said. "The question is, how sophisticated of a submarine could Taiwan industry produce" without U.S. assistance?
Taiwan's state-owned China Shipbuilding Corp. (CSBC) has successfully built naval vessels. CSBC built eight Perry-class (Cheng Kung-class) frigates under U.S. license in the 1990s and is constructing 29 Kuang Hua VI-class missile boats armed with Hsiung Feng 2 (Brave Wind) anti-ship missiles.
Kaohsiung-based CSBC pushed for an indigenous submarine program in 2001, but was unable to get MND support. The design for the Hidden Dragon Program, later known as the Indigenous Defense Submarine, was based on the Argentinean TR-1700 and the Norwegian Ula-class Type 210.
Taiwan operates four submarines: two Dutch-built submarines from the 1980s and two U.S. Guppy-class submarines built during World War II. The Guppies are the oldest operational submarines in the world.
Frigate Upgrade
Plans for upgrading the LaFayette frigates are expected to begin in 2011-12, a Taiwan source said.
However, the "French are out" of the upgrade program, the source said. The original 1991 French procurement was mired in scandal after a Taiwan naval officer was murdered and allegations arose that more than $500 million in bribes were paid to French, Taiwanese and mainland Chinese officials.
"The old French system is going to be replaced with a locally designed command-and-control system," a source said. The Hsiung Feng 2 will remain, but there is debate on what will replace the RIM-72C Sea Chaparral air defense system. Both the Raytheon RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile system and an indigenous naval version of the Tien Chien 2 (Sky Sword) air defense system are being discussed.
The military-run Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology produces a variety of missiles, combat systems and radar. The military can also turn to the state-run Aerospace Industrial Development Corp., which built the Indigenous Defense Fighter aircraft. CSBC has built both military and civilian vessels, and repairs and rebuilds civilian cargo ships and oil tankers.
［駐美特派員曹鬱芬／華府十三日報導］美國國防新聞周刊今天引用一位台灣前國防官員的話說，台灣今年八月可望正式對外宣布，要自製潛艦。
包括美國國防部前台灣科長石明凱還有台灣前海基會董事長陳長文，近來都公開鼓吹台灣應利用工業合作模式自製潛艦。
一位要求匿名的前美國官員向本報表示，布希政府當初同意售台八艘柴油潛艦時，就以在台製造為優先考量，因此當台灣軍方要求美國重開柴油潛艦生產線時，會遭到美國海軍的重重阻力。如果台灣決定潛艦國造，美國可以采用當年協助經國號戰機生產的模式，技術上不會有問題。
國防新聞周刊的報導表示，布希總統2001年同意售台八艘潛艦，但在美國不願生產柴油潛艦，同時台灣需要在不景氣情況創造就業機會等考量下，台灣顯然已決定要自製潛艦。不過美國的技術協助還是必要的。
前台灣國防官員告訴國防新聞周刊，如果巴基斯坦、南韓與日本都可以造潛艦，台灣當然也可以。一位前美國官員則表示，台灣造艦不是問題，而是能夠做出多精密成熟的潛艦。台灣的中船公司2001年曾爭取潛艦國造，但未得到國防部支持。
報導說，美國曾於2003年向台灣提供價值20億美元的八艘義大利製蘇諾級（Sauro-class）舊柴油潛艦，但台灣堅持要新船，拒絕這項建議。
報導也指出，台灣的拉法葉巡防艦將於2011至2012年開始升級，但由於弊案糾纏，這次升級將采用台灣自製的指管通情係統而不再使用法國係統。至於現有的RIM-72C海叢防空係統，則可能被雷神公司的RIM-116或天劍二型防空係統所取代。
Taiwan To Build Own Diesel Subs
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4035332
By wendell minnick
Published: 13 April 2009
Taipei - Taiwan appears to have given up on a 2001 U.S. offer of eight diesel submarines and instead will develop an indigenous vessel, although U.S. technical support may still be needed, a former Taiwan defense official said. An announcement is expected in August, sources here said.
Sources say the move is due to U.S. reluctance to build diesel submarines and the need to create jobs in Taiwan's economically depressed shipbuilding industry.
"If Pakistan, South Korea and Japan can build a submarine, then Taiwan can do it," said the former defense official.
The Ministry of National Defense (MND) also plans to upgrade its six French-built LaFayette-class (Kang Ding-class)frigates and procure two additional minesweeper patrol vessels from the United States.
Taiwan procured four U.S. Aggressive-class minehunters in 1994, and there are discussions about acquiring two U.S. Osprey-class coastal minehunters.
The U.S. submarine offer has faced political hurdles here and in Washington. The United States was expected to release a Foreign Military Sales notification for the first phase of the program in 2008, but the release was deferred to the next administration for unknown reasons. The first phase, or design stage, was expected to cost $360 million. The second phase, or build stage, was estimated at $10 billion.
Taiwan's earlier insistence on new submarines has been a focal point of controversy and complication. The United States has not built new diesel submarines since the Barbel-class in 1959, and Taiwan's insistence on new boats has only increased the challenge.
The United States offered Taiwan a cost-effective solution in 2003 when Italy offered to sell eight decommissioned Sauro-class diesel submarines for only $2 billion. Delivery would have begun in 2006 after the United States refurbished the vessels. However, Taiwan rejected the offer and continued to insist on new submarines.
Further complicating the issue, a special budget for submarines was held up in the legislature for six years due to political infighting between elements supporting independence from China and others supporting unification.
"Any move by the Ma administration to examine alternative acquisition routes for diesel submarines should be welcomed," a former Pentagon official said.
However, many ask whether the self-governing island can build a complex platform like a submarine.
"The question is not whether Taiwan can or cannot make submarines. Colombian drug runners can make submarines," the former Pentagon official said. "The question is, how sophisticated of a submarine could Taiwan industry produce" without U.S. assistance?
Taiwan's state-owned China Shipbuilding Corp. (CSBC) has successfully built naval vessels. CSBC built eight Perry-class (Cheng Kung-class) frigates under U.S. license in the 1990s and is constructing 29 Kuang Hua VI-class missile boats armed with Hsiung Feng 2 (Brave Wind) anti-ship missiles.
Kaohsiung-based CSBC pushed for an indigenous submarine program in 2001, but was unable to get MND support. The design for the Hidden Dragon Program, later known as the Indigenous Defense Submarine, was based on the Argentinean TR-1700 and the Norwegian Ula-class Type 210.
Taiwan operates four submarines: two Dutch-built submarines from the 1980s and two U.S. Guppy-class submarines built during World War II. The Guppies are the oldest operational submarines in the world.
Frigate Upgrade
Plans for upgrading the LaFayette frigates are expected to begin in 2011-12, a Taiwan source said.
However, the "French are out" of the upgrade program, the source said. The original 1991 French procurement was mired in scandal after a Taiwan naval officer was murdered and allegations arose that more than $500 million in bribes were paid to French, Taiwanese and mainland Chinese officials.
"The old French system is going to be replaced with a locally designed command-and-control system," a source said. The Hsiung Feng 2 will remain, but there is debate on what will replace the RIM-72C Sea Chaparral air defense system. Both the Raytheon RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile system and an indigenous naval version of the Tien Chien 2 (Sky Sword) air defense system are being discussed.
The military-run Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology produces a variety of missiles, combat systems and radar. The military can also turn to the state-run Aerospace Industrial Development Corp., which built the Indigenous Defense Fighter aircraft. CSBC has built both military and civilian vessels, and repairs and rebuilds civilian cargo ships and oil tankers.
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