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YouTube 美國前總統老布什三子尼爾。布什談中美關係！中國現在被美國兩黨當作政治宣傳工具

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3_0T2ssOvw

2024年9月30日

目前，美國兩黨都認為中國是對美國的威脅，中國很容易成為政治宣傳的替罪羊，大多數美國人可能甚至不能容忍我這麽說，但中國體製對中國很有效，所以我和現在90%的美國人是不同的陣營
問

自20世紀70年代以來，您已經去過中國100多次，150多次，所以您見證了中美關係的起起落落，此時此刻，您對中美關係的未來是樂觀還是悲觀

答
我很現實，這可能是中美關係的低穀，我樂觀地認為情況不會再惡化了，我的意思是情況可能會變得更糟，但我樂觀地認為情況會變得更糟我認為事情會循環往複，我們正處於這個周期的低穀，嗯，現在中國被美國兩黨視為威脅，中國很容易成為政治宣傳的替罪羊，你知道，很容易抨擊中國侵犯我們的權利，奪走我們的工作，用 ticktock 和華為做所有這些邪惡的事情，等等，我認為這些言論會逐漸平息，嗯，選舉結束後，首先，我們意識到我們的經濟已經被關稅損害，雙邊貿易關係與中國的貿易關係沒有邪惡的一麵，它實際上非常健康，這對美國消費者有好處，對美國的繁榮也有好處，但對中國也有好處，所以這是一個典型的雙贏局麵，嗯，我認為美國人會意識到，中國人不是壞人，他們是好人，嗯，我另一個關鍵問題是中國的動機是什麽？隨著中國的發展，其軍事力量顯然也會增長，因為這就是各國建立國防能力的原因，問題是中國將如何使用這些軍隊，以及這些軍隊是否有可能以某種敵對的方式針對美國？我不認為這是中國的意圖，你知道我父親從不相信中國是美國的敵人，我想如果你這樣對待他們，朋友就會變成敵人，但如果我們最終卷入某種衝突，對兩國和世界來說都是毀滅性的，所以是的，我現實地認為我們正處於低穀，樂觀地期待著上升，當理性思維占上風時，你如何看待中國經濟的未來，如果中國和美國的公司和其他人能夠合作，還有哪些其他潛力？答是的，潛力很大，現在合作的前景很好隻是因為地緣政治緊張局勢，我認為中國受到了貿易關係的傷害，關稅，我們的貿易債務下降了，貿易額下降了，我不確定我現在是否看好在中國的投資，但我會看好中國複興的長期前景，或者你知道反彈，你知道地緣政治局勢使事情倒退，中國有足夠多的消費人口和足夠大的創新中心，有許多企業家或許多中小型企業將成長並變得繁榮，所以我不會打賭中國經濟會下跌，我不是經濟學家，但僅從我在街上聽到的和我讀到的，我不會預測中國會在短期內實現強勁增長
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就像你之前提到的，你在過去幾十年裏來過中國 150 次，有人問過你為什麽你經常去中國嗎
答
太好了，我妻子問我你為什麽要回中國？我不。我真的很喜歡訪問中國。我從 1975 年開始，當時我 20 歲，還在上大學。我親眼目睹了文化大革命期間的中國。文化大革命結束後，我每年都會回來。不是每年，80 年代，但從那以後，我每年都經常回來。親眼目睹中國從一個非常貧窮的自行車國家崛起為現在的電動汽車領先國家，這真是一件了不起的事情。你知道，中國現在非常繁榮，這是 50 年前我第一次來這裏時無法想象的。因此，親眼目睹這一切對我來說真的很棒。我得出的結論是，大多數美國人
可能甚至無法容忍我這麽說，但中國的製度對中國很有效。中國的製度讓數億人受益匪淺，他們的繁榮前景
美國前總統老布什三兒子尼爾。布什談中美關係！中國現在被美國兩黨當作政治宣傳工具

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3_0T2ssOvw
2024年9月30日

China right now is perceived as a threat to the United States by both political parties and China is an easy Whipping Boy for political propaganda and most Americans probably can't even tolerate that I will say this but that the Chinese system has worked for China so I'm I'm in a different Camp than 90% of the American people right now 
問
you've been to China more than 100 times 150 times since the 1970s so you witness the ups and downs of China us relations at this particular time are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future of China us relations 

答
I'm realistic that this is probably a low point in us China relations I'm optimistic that it can't get any worse I mean it could get worse but I'm optimistic that it won't get worse I think things ride in cycles and we're at a low EB of this cycle um China right now is perceived as a threat to the United States by both political parties and China is an easy Whipping Boy for political propaganda you know it's easy to bash China as infringing on our rights and taking our jobs and whatever doing all these evil things with ticktock and Huawei and blah blah blah I
think the rhetoric will die down um as one after this election is over first second after we realize that our economy has been damaged by tariffs and that the
relationship the bilateral trade relationship with China doesn't have an evilness to it that it's actually very healthy and that it's been good for American consumers and good for for America America's Prosperity but it's also been very good for China so there's been this classic win-win situation um and I think Americans going to realize
the Chinese aren't bad people you know that they're they're nice people and um and I the other kind of critical question is what are China's motivations as China grows clearly its military will also grow because that's what countries do they build up defense capabilities and the question is what will China use that military for and and is it possible that that military is going to be aimed
at America in some hostile way I don't think it I don't think that that's China's intentions at all you know my father never believed that China was enemy to the United States and I guess you can turn a friend into an enemy if
you treat them that way you know eventually but it would be devastating to to both countries and to the world if we ended up engaging in some kind of a conflict so yeah I'm I'm realistically suggesting that we're at a low Point
optimistically looking forward to to a to an upswing you know when when rational thought prevails 
問
as a businessman and investor yourself um how do you see the future of China's economy and what other potentials if the companies and other people from China and America can work together 
答
yeah the potential is great the the the prospects of working together right now are pretty pretty sluggish only because of the the geopolitical tensions China's been hurt I think by by our trade relationship with the tariffs our trade debt has gone down with China the trade exch the amount of trade exchange has gone down I'm not sure I'd be bullish right now on investing in China I would be bullish on the long-term prospects of China's Rejuvenation or you know rebounding you know Co set things back the geopolitical situation set things back and China has a large enough consumer population and a large enough Center of innovation there are many entrepreneurs or many small and medium-sized businesses that will grow and become you know prosperous so I I wouldn't bet against China's economy I'm not an economist but just from what I hear on the streets and what I read I wouldn't wouldn't predict China's robust growth anytime soon 
問
like you mentioned before you came to China 150 times in the past few decades have anyone asked you why why you go to China so often 

答
that's a great my wife asks me that all the time why are you going back to China I don't I I really love my visits to China I started in 1975 when I was a 20-year-old man I was in college and I came and saw firsthand China during the cultural revolution the end of the cultural revolution and since then I've been coming back every every just about every year not every year in the in the 80s but since then I come back frequently um during every year and it's been a remarkable thing to witness China's rise from a very poor bicycling country to a country now that is the leading deployer of electric vehicles on the streets or you know where there's so much Prosperity that was unimaginable 50 years ago when I first came here and so it's been really wonderful for me to witness firsthand and and to I've come to the conclusion and most Americans probably can't even tolerate that I will say this but that the Chinese system has worked for China Chinese system has been so beneficial to hundreds of millions of people whose prospects for Prosperity
50年前，在舊體製下，中國的發展空間非常有限，隨著中美雙邊貿易的開放，以及全球化和全球貿易的興起，中國已經崛起，所以我回來做生意，我回來促進我父親長期以來的遺產利益，進行尊重的對話，增進理解，尋找合作解決重大問題的方法，當我戴上商業帽子，當我代表我父親的遺產利益工作時，我經常會想起今年是我第六次去中國，例如哇，今年哇，就今年，是的，我的意思是我的護照已經拿到了，我拿到了一本全新的護照，已經

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我真的希望更多像你這樣的美國人能來中國訪問，和我們交談

答
事實上，我唯一一次去美國是和一群傑出的領導人在一起，我被要求

發表演講，我們三四個人被要求向總統做三分鍾的演講，所以我在演講中告訴他，我去過中國， 150 次左右，之後他說你需要讓更多的人像你一樣，你需要更多的人來，這是真的，如果你來一個國家，你已經預先設想了它會是什麽樣子，而這些觀念受到現實的挑戰，那裏的人們很友好，食物很棒，進步是實實在在的，你可以看到所有這些進步，你知道，這些都是真實的證據，如果你真的花時間來看看今天我從北京乘坐高鐵來到這裏，你知道隻是以非常高的速度行駛，而且是舒適的火車車廂，我們在美國沒有這些，我不知道它們在中國是否具有經濟可行性或成功，但這是我有點嫉妒的事情，我希望我能乘坐高鐵從休斯頓到奧斯汀，你知道在我所在的州，這將非常有意義，但我們還沒有能夠繞過法規或限製完成任務 中國完成任務

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我也去過美國很多次，和很多當地人交談過，我發現很多人對我們很好，是的，但當然，一旦他們知道我來自中國，就會產生一定程度的誤解和誤導，是的，所以，我想前幾天我看到新聞說，眾議院通過了一項法案，籌集 16 億美元用於在海外傳播反華言論，所以我真的沒有看到，是的，有新聞，所以它有可能通過成為法律，所以存在一定的誤導，所以有了這種誤導和造成一定的誤解，我們如何才能讓兩國人民走到一起，確保我們相互理解

答
是的，我不知道這很難，我不知道這將如何改變，我確實認為我們處於低 E 水平，我確實認為兩國關係將有所改善，我認為他們會更直接、更透明、更準確地溝通事實，你知道中國的動機是什麽，你知道關稅
如何影響美國的個人消費者，以及所有這些事情，最終事情會回到
更積極的方向，但你現在說得對，美國，你聽說過《注定要開戰》這本書嗎，嗯，這是哈佛大學一位教授寫的書，他研究了 16 個案例，其中一個老牌大國，比如美國，當今世界最強大的大國，麵對一個崛起的大國
中國是一個崛起的大國，在 16 個案例中，有 12 個以戰爭告終，這是在過去 600 年裏以戰爭告終的原因，一個崛起的大國和老牌大國最終陷入戰爭，因為老牌大國感到受到崛起的威脅，他們編造這些說法，說崛起的大國想要接管並成為地球上最強大的力量，或者崛起的大國將接管我的經濟，或者崛起的大國，你知道我的意思，他們編造了很多虛假的敘述現在正在散布虛假的言論，我認為這與中國的崛起以及這種崛起對我們的生活水平、生活方式和國家安全的威脅直接相關，你知道，我隻是不相信中國的崛起對美國構成威脅，所以我和現在 90% 的美國人處於不同的陣營，我同意你的觀點，如果更多的人能來，他們就可以做出自己的判斷，而不是聽信美國政治精英的宣傳和煽動，他們把中國描繪成某種魔鬼和敵人，你知道
問
是的，你繼續努力建立中美關係的主要動力是什麽
答
我正在盡我所能，這很孤獨，很孤獨，不，我是喬治·H·W·布什基金會為我們中國
were zero back 50 years ago were very limited under the old system and so with the opening with the US China bilateral trade and with a global trade with globalization China has has risen and so I come back for business I come back to promote my father's longstanding Legacy
interest in having uh respectful dialogue in having better understanding in finding ways to collaborate on major
issues when I wear the business hat and when I work kind of on behalf of my father's Legacy interest I it brings me back frequently this is my sixth trip to China this year for example wow this year wow just this year yeah I mean my passports already I got a brand new passport and it's already been 

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I really wish more American people like you will come to visit China and talk to us 
答
I actually the only time I've ever been in the U was with a group of distinguished leaders and I was asked to
give a speech there was like three or four of us who were asked to give like a three-minute presentation to the president so I told him during my speech that I'd been to China like 150 times or something and afterwards he said you need to get more people to be like you just like you that you need more people to come and it's true if you come and visit a country and you have preconceived no of what it's going to be like and those Notions are challenged by the reality that the people are friendly the food is great the progress is tangible you can see all this progress being made you know and that's those are that there's real evidence if you actually take time to come and look at today I came from Beijing on a highspeed rail you know just Cruise along you know at a very high rate and a comfortable you know train car we don't have those in America and and may I don't know if there's if they're economically viable or successful in China but it's it's something that I'm kind of jealous of I wish I could get on a high-speed rail to go from Houston to Austin you know in my state it would be Mak so much sense but we haven't been able to to um work around regulations or the you know restrictions to get it done China gets things done 

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I've also visited America many  times and talked to a lot of local people there and I find a lot of people actually very nice to us yes but of course there there's certain amount of misunderstandings misinform once they uh know that I'm from China yeah so and I think the other day I saw the news that I think the House of Representative passed a bill to raise to use $1.6 billion US dollar to deliver anti-china narratives overseas so I mean really I didn't see that yeah there's a news so like it's possible that it will pass into law so there's a effort in certain like misinform so with that uh misinform and cause certain misunderstandings how can we bring the people from both countries together to make sure we
understand each other 
答
yeah I don't that's very difficult to I have no idea how that's going to change I do think that we're at a low E I do think there's going to be Improvement in the ties and
I think they're going to be more direct and more transparent and accurate Communications about facts you know what China's motives are you know how tariffs
affect individual consumers in America and all those kinds of things and eventually things will will swing back
to a more positive direction but yeah you're right right now America have you ever heard of the book destined for war um it's a book by a by a professor from
Harvard who did a study of 16 cases where an established power like the United States that the strongest power faces a rising power in today's world
China is a rising power and in uh 12 of the 16 cases it ended up in War this is over the past 600 years ended up in war and the reason it is that that a rising power established power end up in Wars because the established power feels threatened by the rise and as a and they make up these claims that the rising power wants to take over and be the most powerful force on the Earth or the rising power is going to take over my economy or the rising power you know what I mean they come up with false narratives there are many false narratives being planted right now and I think it's a direct uh directly related to China's rise and the perceived threat of that rise to our standard of living and to our way of life and to our national security you know I just don't I don't believe that the rise represents a threat to America so I'm so I'm I'm in a different Camp than 90% of the American people right now and I and I agree with you that if more people could come they could make their own judgment and not listen to the propaganda and the demagoguery of the political Elite in America that make China out to be some kind of devil and you know enemy and you know 
問
yeah what a main drive for you to continue to work and build connections between China and America 
答
I'm trying my best it's a very lonely very lonely no I the B the George HW Bush foundation for us China
中美關係由一位能說一口流利中文的人管理，他曾在中國為美國國務院工作了很長時間，他和我父親一樣，對建立對話有著同樣的意識，所以我們主持
我們有一個黨對黨的對話，一個中共小組會見共和黨人和民主黨人，所以我們主持軍對軍的對話，有點像第二軌道對話，我們偶爾會舉行一次會議，因此，本著喬治·H·W·布什的精神，我們試圖把人們聚集在一起，如果你和某人坐在一個房間裏，你看著他們的眼睛，你尊重地傾聽，你就會情不自禁地產生同理心，或者你知道從中學習，並緩解緊張局勢，你知道這創造了一種合作的機會，所以我們需要更多這樣的人與人、政府與政府、企業與企業之間的互動，我們需要雙方之間更多的互動來降低不信任和恐懼
問
我們在這裏參加世界製造業大會，是的，你的看法是什麽，你的看法是什麽您對這個製造業大會的未來有什麽看法？您認為歐洲、中國、北美、澳大利亞，我們都可以共同合作嗎？

我希望如此，我不是製造業專家，也不是經濟學家，但我相信，經濟將麵臨越來越大的壓力，是的，為了提高經濟效率，你知道中國人將遭受人口減少的困擾，一大批老人將退休，那麽誰來支持這些大型 PIV 的退休，我們需要什麽樣的生產力，不僅是中國，而且全球都需要提高製造效率，這樣我們才能擁有更高的生產率，以滿足世界各地公民日益增長的需求，所以對我來說，這似乎很合乎邏輯，也許我生活在老派的思維過程中，但全球化在幫助分享最佳實踐、分享技術、分享創新等方麵發揮了很好的作用，它讓全世界的人們受益，我希望像這樣的會議和世界各地的其他會議能夠帶來更多這樣的嗯嗯，聯合創新研究，比如實際應用，幫助提高全球製造業的效率，我不知道，所以我，我希望這是那種會對讓世界變得更美好產生積極影響的事情，我很高興來到這裏
US China relations Is run by a guy that's a fluent Chinese speaker um he worked in China for the US state department for a long time he has the same sense of ility that my father had about you know establishing dialogue so we host dialogue between we have a party to party where the a CPC group meet you know has a meeting with Republicans and Democrats so we we we host military to military you know conversations kind of track two type dialogue we have a conference every once in a while so in the spirit of George HW Bush we try to bring people together um and it's true that if you sit in a room with somebody and you look them eye to eye and you listen respectfully you can't help but be empathetic or you know learn from and and lowers tensions you know it creates an kind of an opportunity for working together I and so we need way more of that people to people government to government business to business we need way more interactions between both sides to lower the distrust and the fear 
問
we are here at the world manufacturing convention yes what's your perspective what's your vision for the future of this manufacturing convention do you see that the Europe China North America Australia we can all work together 
答
I hope so yeah I'm not a manufacturing expert I'm not an economist but I do believe that there's going to be growing pressure on economies to and yeah for economies to be more efficient you know the Chinese are going to suffer from a population decrease and there's going to be a bunch old people retiring and so who's going to what kind of productivity is going to come to support you know the retirement of these large PIV you need we need and not just China but globally there needs to be an increase  in manufacturing efficiencies you know so that we can have higher rates of productivity to meet the growing needs of citizens around the world and so to me it seems pretty logical and maybe I'm I'm living at Old School thought process here but globalization has worked very well in helping to share best practices share Technologies share Innovations and that kind of thing it's benefiting people all across the globe and it would be my hope that conferences like this and others around the world can lead to to more like um um joint research for Innovation like real applications to help increase efficiencies in manufact facturing in manufacturing globally I don't know so I I I hope this is the kind of thing that that will be a positive influence on on making the world a better place and I'm happy to be here

美國前總統老布什三兒子尼爾。布什談中美關係！中國現在被美國兩黨當作政治宣傳工具

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3_0T2ssOvw
2024年9月30日

China right now is perceived as a threat to the United States by both political parties and China is an easy Whipping Boy for political propaganda and most Americans probably can't even tolerate that I will say this but that the Chinese system has worked for China so I'm I'm in a different Camp than 90% of the American people right now 

問
you've been to China more than 100 times 150 times since the 1970s so you
witness the ups and downs of China us relations at this particular time are
you optimistic or pessimistic about the future of China us relations 

答
I'm realistic that this is probably a low point in us China relations I'm optimistic that it can't get any worse I mean it could get worse but I'm optimistic that it won't get worse I think things ride in cycles and we're at a low EB of this cycle um China right
now is perceived as a threat to the United States by both political parties
and China is an easy Whipping Boy for political propaganda you know it's easy
to bash China as infringing on our rights and taking our jobs and whatever
doing all these evil things with ticktock and Huawei and blah blah blah I
think the rhetoric will die down um as one after this election is over first
second after we realize that our economy has been damaged by tariffs and that the
relationship the bilateral trade relationship with China doesn't have an evilness to it that it's actually very healthy and that it's been good for American consumers and good for for America America's Prosperity but it's also been very good for China so there's
been this classic win-win situation um and I think Americans going to realize
the Chinese aren't bad people you know that they're they're nice people and um
and I the other kind of critical question is what are China's motivations
as China grows clearly its military will also grow because that's what countries
do they build up defense capabilities and the question is what will China use
that military for and and is it possible that that military is going to be aimed
at America in some hostile way I don't think it I don't think that that's
China's intentions at all you know my father never believed that China was
enemy to the United States and I guess you can turn a friend into an enemy if
you treat them that way you know eventually but it would be devastating
to to both countries and to the world if we ended up engaging in some kind of a
conflict so yeah I'm I'm realistically suggesting that we're at a low Point
optimistically looking forward to to a to an upswing you know when when
rational thought prevails 

問
as a businessman and investor yourself um how do you see the future of China's economy and what other potentials if the companies and other people from China and America can work together 

答
yeah the potential is great the the the prospects of working together right now are pretty pretty sluggish only because of the the geopolitical tensions China's been hurt I think by by our trade relationship with the tariffs our trade debt has gone
down with China the trade exch the amount of trade exchange has gone down
I'm not sure I'd be bullish right now on investing in China I would be bullish on
the long-term prospects of China's Rejuvenation or you know rebounding you
know Co set things back the geopolitical situation set things back and China has
a large enough consumer population and a large enough Center of innovation there
are many entrepreneurs or many small and medium-sized businesses that will grow
and become you know prosperous so I I wouldn't bet against China's economy I'm
not an economist but just from what I hear on the streets and what I read I
wouldn't wouldn't predict China's robust growth anytime soon 

問

like you mentioned before you came to China 150 times in the past few decades have anyone asked you why why you go to China so often 

答
that's a great my wife asks me that all the time why are you going back to China I don't I I really love my visits to China I started in 1975 when I was a 20-year-old man I was in college and I came and saw firsthand China during the cultural revolution the end of the cultural revolution and since then I've been coming back every every just about every year not every year in the in the 80s but since then I come back frequently um during every year and it's been a remarkable thing to witness China's rise from a very poor bicycling country to a country now that is the leading deployer of electric vehicles on the streets or you know where there's so much Prosperity that was unimaginable 50 years ago when I first came here and so it's been really wonderful for me to witness firsthand and and to I've come to the conclusion and most Americans
probably can't even tolerate that I will
say this but that the Chinese system has
worked for China Chinese system has been
so beneficial to hundreds of millions of
people whose prospects for Prosperity
were zero back 50 years ago were very
limited under the old system and so with
the opening with the US China bilateral
trade and with a global trade with
globalization China has has risen and so
I come back for business I come back to
promote my father's longstanding Legacy
interest in having uh respectful
dialogue in having better understanding
in finding ways to collaborate on major
issues when I wear the business hat and
when I work kind of on behalf of my
father's Legacy interest I it brings me
back frequently this is my sixth trip to
China this year for example wow this
year wow just this year yeah I mean my
passports already I got a brand new
passport and it's already been 

問
I really wish more American people
like you will come to visit China and
talk to us 
答
I actually the only time
I've ever been in the U was with a group of
distinguished leaders and I was asked to
give a speech there was like three or
four of us who were asked to give like a
three-minute presentation to the
president so I told him during my speech
that I'd been to China like 150 times or
something and afterwards he said you
need to get more people to be like you
just like you that you need more people
to come and it's true if you come and
visit a country and you have
preconceived no of what it's going to be
like and those Notions are challenged by
the reality that the people are friendly
the food is great the progress is
tangible you can see all this progress
being made you know and that's those are
that there's real evidence if you
actually take time to come and look at
today I came from Beijing on a highspeed
rail you know just Cruise along you know
at a very high rate and a comfortable
you know train car we don't have those
in America and and may I don't know if
there's if they're economically viable
or successful in China but it's it's
something that I'm kind of jealous of I
wish I could get on a high-speed rail to
go from Houston to Austin you know in my
state it would be Mak so much sense but
we haven't been able to to um work
around regulations or the you know
restrictions to get it done China gets
things done 

問
I've also visited America many
times and talked to a lot of local
people there and I find a lot of people
actually very nice to us yes but of
course there there's certain amount of
misunderstandings misinform once they uh
know that I'm from China yeah so and I
think the other day I saw the news that
I think the House of Representative
passed a bill to raise to use $1.6
billion US dollar to deliver anti-china
narratives overseas so I mean really I
didn't see that yeah there's a news so
like it's possible that it will pass
into law so there's a effort in certain
like misinform so with that uh misinform
and cause certain misunderstandings how
can we bring the people from both
countries together to make sure we
understand each other 
答
yeah I don't that's very difficult to I have no idea
how that's going to change I do think
that we're at a low E I do think there's
going to be Improvement in the ties and
I think they're going to be more direct
and more transparent and accurate
Communications about facts you know what
China's motives are you know how tariffs
affect individual consumers in America
and all those kinds of things and
eventually things will will swing back
to a more positive direction but yeah
you're right right now America have you
ever heard of the book destined for war
um it's a book by a by a professor from
Harvard who did a study of 16 cases
where an established power like the
United States that the strongest power
faces a rising power in today's world
China is a rising power and in uh 12 of
the 16 cases it ended up in War this is
over the past 600 years ended up in war
and the reason it is that that a rising
power established power end up in Wars
because the established power feels
threatened by the rise and as a and they
make up these claims that the rising
power wants to take over and be the most
powerful force on the Earth or the
rising power is going to take over my
economy or the rising power you know
what I mean they come up with false
narratives there are many false
narratives being planted right now and I
think it's a direct uh directly related
to China's rise and the perceived threat
of that rise to our standard of living
and to our way of life and to our
national security you know I just don't
I don't believe that the rise represents
a threat to America so I'm so I'm I'm in
a different Camp than 90% of the
American people right now and I and I
agree with you that if more people could
come they could make their own judgment
and not listen to the propaganda and the
demagoguery of the political Elite in
America that make China out to be some
kind of devil and you know enemy and you
know 
問
yeah what a main drive for you to
continue to work and build connections
between China and America 

答

I'm trying my best it's a very lonely very lonely no I the B the George
HW Bush foundation for us China
relations Is run by a guy that's a
fluent Chinese speaker um he worked in
China for the US state department for a
long time he has the same sense of ility
that my father had about you know
establishing dialogue so we host
dialogue between we have a party to
party where the a CPC group meet you
know has a meeting with Republicans and
Democrats so we we we host military to
military you know conversations kind of
track two type dialogue we have a
conference every once in a while so in
the spirit of George HW Bush we try to
bring people together um and it's true
that if you sit in a room with somebody
and you look them eye to eye and you
listen respectfully you can't help but
be empathetic or you know learn from and
and lowers tensions you know it creates
an kind of an opportunity for working
together I and so we need way more of
that people to people government to
government business to business we need
way more interactions between both sides
to lower the distrust and the fear 
問
we are here at the world manufacturing convention yes what's your perspective
what's your vision for the future of this manufacturing convention do you see
that the Europe China North America Australia we can all work together 
答
I hope so yeah I'm not a manufacturing expert I'm not an economist but I do
believe that there's going to be growing
pressure on economies to and yeah for
economies to be more efficient you know
the Chinese are going to suffer from a
population decrease and there's going to
be a bunch old people retiring and so
who's going to what kind of productivity
is going to come to support you know the
retirement of these large PIV you need
we need and not just China but globally
there needs to be an increase in in in
manufacturing efficiencies you know so
that we can have higher rates of
productivity to meet the growing needs
of citizens around the world and so to
me it seems pretty logical and maybe I'm
I'm living at Old School thought process
here but globalization has worked very well
in helping to share best practices share
Technologies share Innovations and that
kind of thing it's benefiting people all
across the globe and it would be my hope
that conferences like this and others
around the world can lead to to more
like um um joint research for Innovation
like real applications to help increase
efficiencies in manufact facturing in
manufacturing globally I don't know so I
I I hope this is the kind of thing that
that will be a positive influence on on
making the world a better place and I'm
happy to be here