美國華人自己的CPA博客

在美國的華人為了能夠令自己得生活過的好一點,或挑戰自我,努力去考CPA.但又有幾人能明白大家的心情呢
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有Group member 在問CPA找工作的問題,我先預定這個版麵啦

(2007-03-28 20:25:30) 下一個

第一個工作問題,有人提過,請討論一下:

但是如果沒工作經驗,你是CPA,CFA,應聘entry level,會不會有overqualified的問題呢?

第二個工作問題,本人正在找工作,已經有一月啦.聽說現在會計很容易找工作,可是還沒有什麽音信.
我主要找的是政府工,登記了二十份審計工作,都是聯邦政府.但又不知道夠不夠,再申請多幾十份才夠?如果你們有看我的簡曆,其實我一直都在為人民服務.去年我在政府做審計的時候心情奇好.你在BIG 4也許不很厲害,但是到了政府,你可是頂尖級人馬.保證一年升一級.如果你們有移民局的經曆,其實跟平民講話的都是小官,看他們的口氣,好牛啊...........GS-9(副縣長待遇, 多小的官,從七品) 以上的人永遠也不用見customer.我老板GS-13,(副州長的待遇)幾個平時是上帝一般的團長(軍隊裏麵長官就是再生父母)見了她都要畢恭畢敬.我坐在老板的前麵,團長們路過了以為我是什麽新來的高手.居然招呼問好.有幸我的幾個老板都是13,他們的地位雷打不動,都沒比我們這些菜鳥多讀幾年書,不知何是CPA,竟然是總預算師.很多CPA混了一輩子還是個Controller.

沒什麽,就是年輕的時候比其他人每天多幹了一個小時.中年的時候比別人反而幹得都少.去那裏找這樣的工作啊.如果你在BIG 4,要多幹幾天一個星期.如果你真的不想發財,沒什麽區別.政府的綜合待遇比BIG 4 的好.我混在裏麵幾年了,造就了我這樣一代想吃納稅人錢糧的新人. 如果你想幹一番驚天動地的事業,政府也可以,官大了,可以直接上書到議會改預算,提審計報告,你退休前會有機會的.

可惜我混的是小城市大部門,現在想找個大城市小一點也可以的部門居然找苦了.你們有誰有找政府工作的經驗呢,是不是要多申請幾十個工作啊.現在政府的都是網上申請了,懶得見你,順便查查你的祖宗是幹什麽的.還有,BIG 4 我都申請了,他們比政府的人還牛啊,居然像打火箭一樣,去了不回.BIG 4去不了,BIG 20 我也申請了,他們也是小牛啊.雖然我不是什麽名校畢業,但拒絕信也給我一封啊.

請你們提些意見,好讓我再努力一下. 謝謝啊.




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初夏的果實 回複 悄悄話 I'm going to take CPA exam in CA. I'm evaluated my coursework right now.

The bachelor degree I got from China has been accepted by board-approved agency, but the agency didn't show how many units in accounting courses, how many units in business-related courses.CA board requires 24 units in Accounting and 24 units in Business-related.

My major is Business and Economics, so I think the units in accounting courses are not enough. I realized from website of CA Board of Accountancy, the courses I took from a vocational school are acceptale, but this school just evaluates coursework by hour, not unit. Could anybody advise how many hours are required by CA board of Accountancy? How can I do in this situation? Thank you for any reply.
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 回複枯鴉的評論:
You're welcome! Good luck!
枯鴉 回複 悄悄話 回複alicewye的評論:
thanks a lot for the information. I have sent out my application to CES. After making a quick accessment, I have made decision to sit for Delaware States. I know that whole lot factors will be involved regarding certification and license, well, I'm going to warry about it until the time comes. However, I really do appreciate your prompt response.
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 回複枯鴉的評論:
Also, if you have any question about the process, please be more detail, so that we can help. :)
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 回複枯鴉的評論:
I think you should follow whatever the board website asks you to do, because they are the one to process and say yes to your case.
fsnb8118 回複 悄悄話 回複枯鴉的評論:
I just sent your question though the group email. I will let you know if there is any update news. Thanks.
枯鴉 回複 悄悄話 fsnb8118,
想請教一下報考Delaware州的情況。我打算今年7月考,還沒報名,網上找了好多資料,太雜,也去了Delaware的board網頁。想在報名前得高人指點!多謝!
Chunky 回複 悄悄話 回複fsnb8118的評論:
In CA, you have to send everything including the check to the agency, or they won't process. :)
fsnb8118 回複 悄悄話 回複初夏的果實的評論:
Try not to pay anything up front!!! They are accoutants expert in cash collection. It took me three days to finish the packet.
Chunky 回複 悄悄話 回複初夏的果實的評論:
Send your sealed tran and diploma to th evaluation agency. They will send the evaluated tran to CA board. It won't take 9-month. At most 2 months.
初夏的果實 回複 悄悄話 Thank everybody for your answer.They are really helpful.

I have already checked website of Board of California Accountancy and got a lot of information.I know the firstble is evaluation.The evaluation report will be available in 9 months. Is that correct?
Chunky 回複 悄悄話 回複初夏的果實的評論:
Evaluate your tran first. You can check out all the information you need from CA accounting board. If you have questions, call them. They are really helpful on phone.
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 回複初夏的果實的評論:
Hi. I hope my little information can help.
1. go to CA accountancy board website to check for the requiremen(http://www.dca.ca.gov/cba/forms/exambk1.pdf).
Check the FAQ. It has a detail page about foreign education.
2. Evaluation your tran from China. (website has info). As I know, community college credits which can be transfers to a 4 year university are countable towards to the eduacation requirement in NorthCarolina. But double check with the accountacy board in CA.
3. Once you applied, approved, you will get a NTS, then you can schedule your exam by that time. :)
Hope this can help.
初夏的果實 回複 悄悄話 本人在南加州,菜鳥一隻,甚至都不知如何開始evaluation credit,很希望能有前輩及同道中人來指點一二。我在國內貿易經濟本科畢業,學習過會計課程,但不是major, 在美國沒有相關學曆,隻是在社區大學晚上上accounting的基礎課程,同時在一家wholesale公司做全職bookkeeper.很希望能在這個專業裏有進一步發展,希望不是癡人說夢。
能否懇請各位不吝賜教,如何入門?例如如何報名,如何審核學分,如果學分不夠,能有多久可以補上學分?報名後多久必須考試?考試流程是怎樣的?
抱歉這麽多菜鳥問題。多謝答複,並保持聯絡。
fsnb8118 回複 悄悄話 回複Chunky的評論:
Hhahahahaha, from GS-9 to Gs-12 is non-competitive position, raise once a year. GS-12 above you have to compete with others........but all you need is MBA!!!! hahahahaha. My boss doesn't have a degree.......they cannot fire her, but send her to school for a year with pay........what kind job is that.

By the way, you can go up really fast in the government, but you have to win the election to be a leader.....I cannnot speak that kind of good English to win 2008 election.
Chunky 回複 悄悄話 You are soooo funny. I showed your article to my husband. He said: Wow...Promotion every year!!! You will be our President in a few years!!! Hahahah.... We enjoy your article....Keep on.
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 fsnb8118: 搞笑!!!我也在找工作,我不介意小城市大部門, 什麽時候也介紹我去做做啊。 哈哈哈。
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 Hello, is anyone here working for accounting firms? I just graduated in Dec. 2006, B.S. Accounting. I am looking for jobs, could anyone give me some advice? For example, big company vs.small company, accounting firm vs. corporation ect. Thanks a lot.
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 回複quicklearner的評論:
I agree with you. Actually I like the way how the CPA exam design. Before taking the exam, I learn most of the stuff from school, but just learn, never really apply to a case, but CPA exams require us to understand and know how to apply. Great experience!
quicklearner 回複 悄悄話 I dont know about CFA, but as far as CPA, you have to have at least one year qualified working experience to be a CPA.To me, learning is the key, so no overqualify issue.
fsnb8118 回複 悄悄話 回複oharaJP的評論:
Please check my updates in the other section, I got an article for you.
oharaJP 回複 悄悄話 Hi, there. This is a great Blog. Well, I just graduated in Toronto with a bachelor degree major in business administration. I am planning to take severl accounting course then to write the CPA test. My question is since I don't have any working experience in accouting field, can I still write the test to get a CPA certificate first. If so, which state will you guys recommend for me? Thank you so much.
alicewye 回複 悄悄話 頂一下!
fsnb8118 回複 悄悄話 本文章是引用他人的作品.

CPA是注冊會計師(Certified Public Accoutant)的英文縮寫,是指依法取得注冊
會計師證書並接受委托從事審計和會計谘詢、會計服務業務的執業人員。注冊會
計師主要承接的工作有審查企業的會計報表,出具審計報告;驗證企業資本,出
具驗資報告;辦理企業合並、分立、清算事宜中的審計業務,出具有關的報告;
法律、行政法規規定的其他審計業務等。尤其是在執行上市公司審計時,注冊會
計師不僅要鑒證一個公司是否遵循了法律、法規和製度,而且還要判定其會計報
表是否遵循了真實性、公允性和一貫性原則。由注冊會計師依法執行審計業務出
具的報告,具有證明效力。

英國特許公認會計師公會
(The Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, 簡稱 ACCA)
成立於1904年,是目前全球最大的國際會計師組織。ACCA 的國際地位舉足輕重,
聯合國於確定其環球課程時, 亦是以ACCA 的課程作為藍本。



學員完成14張考卷並積累3年相關工作經驗,可申請成為ACCA 會員,並授予 “特
許公認會計師”稱銜,可使用ACCA作為頭銜。

ACCA是世界上大多數國家都承認的,但是由於地方保護主義,也就是保護本國的會
計師,雖然在企業任職可以,在事務所做鑒證業務就不行了,舉例:ACCA在中國可以
作到跨國公司的CFO,但是不能在審計報告上簽字.目前為止,能在國內審計報告上
簽字的隻有CPA,CPA分為執業和非執業兩種,看清楚,是執業不是職業,執業可以在
審計報告上簽字,非執業不行,但是可以在企業任職,不過要想進入跨國公司還要英
語好,CPA共有5科:會計審計財務成本管理經濟法稅法,要求在5年之內全部通
過,否則到第六年還未全部通過的話,第一年的成績作廢,第七年還未全過,則第二
年的成績作廢,以此類推,即單科成績有效5年.ACCA一共14科,分為三個階段,第一
階段3科,第二階段6科,第三階段5科,單科成績有效10年,中國和英國有互相承認
的協議,所以通過CPA的考ACCA可以免考第一階段全部課程和第二階段的13課
程,另外第三部分5科中前兩科是從4科中選兩科,如果發展方向是企業就選企業
方向,如果發展方向是事務所就選鑒證方向,第三部分的後3科必須在一次考試中
同時報名,不允許分著報名,且必須三科全過才有效,如果隻過兩科,那麽沒過的
一科也要達到40分,這樣過了的兩科成績可以保留一次,如果沒夠40分或者隻過一
科,則白搭,至於工資,具體要看個人的能力,CPA中有佼佼者,ACCA中也有廢物點心
,能過ACCA的人未必過的了CPA,因為CPA答案唯一,不允許個人的發揮,錯就是錯
,對就是對,ACCA允許個人的發揮,答案不唯一,你可以有自己的想法,隻要你的想
法合理,ACCA是很注重個人能力的,CPA不是不注重個人能力,而是因為這個行業
在我國起步晚(91年,國外是上百年)所以國外認為我們的考試不夠權威,為了打消
國外的想法,財政部將CPA考試設計的極為變態,超難,想考就要有充分的思想準
備,ACCA則要求外語好.以上意見僅供參考,祝好運.



文章來自: cpa和ACCA
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