trading strategy to harvseting loss for 2025 tax

本帖於 2025-10-08 08:26:16 時間, 由普通用戶 abc-nezha 編輯

Everyone probably has lots of realized gains this year, congrats. But it will be very painful when you have to write a check to Uncle Sam next year. What about forming a trading strategy to harvest tax losses? here is what you can do:

1. but a ATM leap call (say Jan 2027 expiration) on spy or qqq (not spx or ndx)

2. sell  a ATM near term call ( say Jan 2026 expiration), or with a strike price with similar delta

before year end,

3. if market went down,  roll the leap call further and harvest the loss. Close both trade when the near term call expires.

4. if market went up, roll the near term further and harvest the loss. Close both trades in 2026

 

This will not trigger the wash sell rule, but is there any potentail risk?

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anyone has any thoughts? -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 08:38:13

四季度focus 賺錢吧,LOL -雲起千百度- 給 雲起千百度 發送悄悄話 雲起千百度 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 08:41:17

雙管齊下 -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (47 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 08:45:29

厲害 -雲起千百度- 給 雲起千百度 發送悄悄話 雲起千百度 的博客首頁 (0 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 08:46:26

這個trade很容易做 -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (54 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 08:51:28

日曆價差,最壞的情況是那個leap call的多付價差全損失了,並不是無風險的。股價沒有大起落,可以獲利 -GandalfOld- 給 GandalfOld 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 09:21:45

問題是作為稅務操作是不是可行 -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (188 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 09:58:12

懸,diagonal 這種搞,好像會激發 straddle loss deferral,你的loss不能抵今年的gain -dancingpig- 給 dancingpig 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 11:03:09

是一個需要考慮的問題,解決方法是 -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (187 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 11:14:51

哈,不確定呀,不同的帳號有可能能瞞天過海. 明年給大家匯報下結果? -dancingpig- 給 dancingpig 發送悄悄話 (0 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 11:30:51

不是滿天過海 -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (528 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 12:16:20

覺得應該先考慮掙錢,然後才是交稅。在大盤不大漲大跌的情況,這個策略是沒問題的,漲一點跌一點都可以被利用來避稅 -GandalfOld- 給 GandalfOld 發送悄悄話 (266 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 11:30:11

少交稅也是多掙錢 -abc-nezha- 給 abc-nezha 發送悄悄話 (239 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 12:08:41

好的,多謝討論! -GandalfOld- 給 GandalfOld 發送悄悄話 (167 bytes) () 10/08/2025 postreply 12:23:20

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