- Income below Roth limit:after tax money buys Roth IRA
- Roth 401K: change job => rollover to Roth IRA
- 401K: change job => Rollover to IRA. Convert before tax money from IRA to Roth IRA. Pay tax.
- Above Roth income limit: After tax money buys IRA. Record after tax base in form 8606. Convert from IRA to Roth IRA. Use form 8606 to calculat taxable amount.
Simple 8606 calculation with 401K rollover $2,after tax contribution $2 (Assuming no gains) :
- convert to Roth $2: $1 towards income base, $1 tax free, $1 after tax base carry over, IRA = $2, Roth IRA = $2
- convert to Roth $4: $2 towards income base, $2 tax free, $0 after tax base carry over, IRA = $0, Roth IRA = $4
Backdoor Roth tax year:
- 2020年的contribution,可以截至4/15/2021稅後放入 IRA。需要填2020年8606 record pre-tax base。
- convert:現在至12/31/2021,算2021年的form 8606,2022年報2021稅時用。
Backdoor 最吃虧的是:
- After tax money funded IRA but did not convert to Roth. 然後一大堆gains taxed as ordinary income.
- Use before tax money converted at high, then market is down
- Roth IRA lost no tax deduction.
隻有轉之前market大跌除外。
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Enter the value of all your traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs as of December 31, 2020, plus any outstanding rollovers. Subtract any repayments of qualified disaster distributions (see 2020 Forms 8915-C, 8915-D, and 8915-E) .