部份美國政客近年來最熱衷的事就是讓人民幣升值。似乎美國的一切經濟問題都來源於人民幣的穩定(或者小幅度升值). 人民幣的是否升值，對美國經濟確實是有影響。但美國經濟問題的根源是什麽？是因為人民幣的價值沒有正確反應出來？那麽當人民幣和美元比價在1：2，1：3階段時，為何美國經濟不能騰飛，而中國經濟卻上去了？ 也難怪那些政客，救命稻草總是要抓一把。而美國民眾因為人民幣升值而必須為消費付出更多的錢財，他們是熟視無睹的。 筆者不認為這些政客智商低到分不清看不到問題的根源。而是借這個話題，達到政治目的罷了。 下麵看一下國外普通網民如何看待人民幣升值。來源為yahoo留言網站。 david - Monday June 21, 2010 10:23AM EDTOK, but so what will now happen to the worker's of China? Will they need to go on more strikes, until there's blood in the streets? To use a term that the British uppity ups have been using: what about the "little people". BOHICA - Monday June 21, 2010 10:25AM EDTNo more cheap Chinese slave goods anymore. China will no longer hold onto out debts either. We will be the next Greek tragedy! Johnny - Monday June 21, 2010 10:25AM EDTThe Stocks around the world because the Chinese currency will soon replace the dollar......In favor of Chineses currency..................That is the sign that soon China will Dominate the Western World......They will Buy all our Asset and Corporation soon....They have money we have debts........Money will move the mountain in China's Favor?......That what it is......The Mighty China? ku - Monday June 21, 2010 10:30AM EDTHAHA, CHINA CURRENCY WILL RISE AGAINST THE WORLD MONEY. SO THAT MEANS UNITED STATES OWED MORE MONEY TO CHINA,....ALSO THAT MEANS CHINA ECONOMICS WILL DRAMATICALLY SLOW DOWN. THERE ARE NO TURNING BACK BABY. ALL I CAN SEE IS THAT THE ECONOMICS AROUND THE WORLD WILL BE DRAMATICALLY SLOW DOWN TOO. YOU'LL SEE. RECESSION AND OR INFLATION WILL HAPPENED WITH THIS YEAR. I JUST WONDERING DON'T THESE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE POOR FEEDING THE RICH. Yahoo! Finance User - Monday June 21, 2010 10:31AM EDTOur problems do not have anything to do with the Chinese yuan. A valuable yuan will make life more expensive for Americans. Affording less of what we need is not a fix! China cannot fix the world's debt problem. Debt was the problem to begin with and we have more of it now. US dollar rally is real. 2008 was just the warm up in this deflationary crash. FED printed a trillion and inflation is nowhere to be seen! Do you know why? Let me explain. Our money supply is NOT printed dollars. It is bank credit. We printed 2 trillion dollars. But we borrowed 50 to 300 trillion over many decades. This debt becomes our money supply. And it needs to be paid back with interest! Because banks create money when we borrow. For that reason, credit, which is our money supply, can deflate: http://www.tradingstocks.net/html/banks_create_money.html BOHICA - Monday June 21, 2010 10:31AM EDTPlunger team trying to hold the market up this morning on bad news for the US. China raising the yuan to the dollar would be good for our exports but the only problem is WE DON'T MANUFACTURE ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!!! We have become a useless service sector economy. We are like a 64k computer, useless Johnny - Monday June 21, 2010 10:37AM EDTIt is a sign the soon the United States will soon be demoted to Third World Nation Category.............China will soon Demand payment for our Debts...........Okay $ 15 trillion Dollar Debts plus $ 750 Billion Dollar service Chargs every year in interest.............Good for China bad for us.......Where will we get the money to pay our creditor......The Mighty China.......... Don - Monday June 21, 2010 10:40AM EDTUSD will tank sooner or later.China several trillions reserve in USD will convert to "basket of currencies" which meant don't so much rely on USD anymore.What NOBAMA can do? Yahoo! Finance User - Monday June 21, 2010 10:40AM EDTChina has opened the door for hyperinflation in the U.S. which is good news for the wealthy, bad news for the rest of us. The wealthy will recoup their losses with inflation, the consumer will get hosed with massive inflation, the economy will tank again taking the China economy along with it. Only rich Americans benefit from this move. Look at the stock market, it loves it. Anything good for Wall Street is bad for the rest of us Turner - Monday June 21, 2010 11:27AM EDTAs US problems start to materialize, China is setting the stage for the removal of the US dollar as the global reserve currency. This will protect them and others in the world from collapsing commodity prices or severe price increases. Yahoo! Finance User - Monday June 21, 2010 11:40AM EDTYou Fascist's forgot one thing: The rise in the Chinese currency means more expensive Chinese xxxx coming into the USA .... and thr Chinese woker is still paid less than an American worker .... So, tell me ... all you blowhards ... What did you accomplish? what is happening 2 US - Monday June 21, 2010 12:05PM EDT"STOCKS SOAR" really? This is just the next chapter in the plan. Manipulate this equals unintended consequenses so manipulate something else, repeat......... manipulation and uncertanty is not good. move to cash on the up days Yahoo! Finance User - Monday June 21, 2010 12:16PM EDTWow, finally we got what we have wanted all the time: $10 a pack of eggs and $400 a pair of sneakers. Are all of us really so dumb to wish buy thing more expensive? Look at the price of groceries; expect it to triple in a very short time? Why do our politicians always try to mislead us that all our problems are someone else's fault? Last time (2005-2008) Yuan increased 20%; our trade deficit increased 34%, please do the math yourself. This is only good for the rich. Arisian! - Monday June 21, 2010 12:24PM EDTJobs in America are the result of more expensive foreign goods and labor. In what way is a rising yaun bad for anyone who wants an American economic recovery? If we keep currency circulating HERE instead of concentrating it and sending it offshore to pile up as foreign debt, we all benefit- except, of course, the one percent that controls forty-five percent of American wealth. On the down side, there is also considerable potential for disaster: if the yuan rises fast enough, the wealthiest among Americans will precipitate a panicked sell-off of the dollar as they attempt to maintain equity |
貨幣本身並無意義，代表的實質財富才有意義
但通過貨幣政策卻可以掠奪別人的實質財富這才是現代經濟學的精義
純粹是經濟學麽？未必
和國家機器的無縫結合更好的為國家服務，是現代經濟學的另一個要點
這方麵中國要學的東西還很多
在正常情況下，隨著經濟發展貨幣自然升值非常合理，益處相當多
但很明顯。。現在情況很不正常
美國濫發國際貨幣同時還要人民幣升值就是明搶
由於無法借助武力，隻有不斷用捧殺這種下三濫招數，並收買無數被稱為“專家”的漢奸
（不必惱火，你不夠格，指的是投行那些人）
腦子進水才會在被搶的同時還沾沾自喜自己有威望負責任
等被搶到脫褲子美元開始回穩時一屁股屎誰還來管曾經的“世界救主”
太明顯的事實。。。希望中國政府能聰明些
最簡單的方法給大家升值預期，3年後創造個理由一次性貶值20%再升值回來，帝國主義就了解什麽是民主專政了
當然同時請做好軍事建設。。拳頭才是硬道理
如果人民幣能升到一個合理的匯率水平,如果中國能減少貿易順差,如果沒有其它國家接替中國現在的位置(可能不會有了),西方的經濟會好轉的.
Although 國際上公認新疆和西藏是中國的領土, the West is still interested in splitting
China if they ever have a chance. Now some of them hope that 吉爾吉思騷亂 could also
happen in Xingjiang.
左宗棠 has nothing to do with the "Red China", it was very irresponsible and
damaging for the ABC radio station to tell people that Xingjiang was
invaded and taken by Red China 60 years ago.
ps:新疆左宗棠之前，和西藏一樣，可以和中國皇朝的關係，可以介乎於主權和宗主權的關係，也可以說類似於“殖民地”的屬性。沒有必要去計較什麽時候並入中國領土的，隻要明確，新疆和西藏，在清朝末年起至今，是國際上公認的中國領土即可，至於到底從1000年算，還是100年前算，沒有意義。
You are loosing the point. What we are talking about is the relationship between the Yuan appreciation and the economic condition in the west. What you have said is that China is doing bad things worse than Japan. Except for the Yuan appreciation, what else you are referring to the "bad things?" What will happen if the economic condition is not improving in the west after the Yuan apperication?
回顧50-70年代的西方經濟,你會發現那時西方繁榮的時代.那時的日本都沒現在的中國這麽過分.如果中國不改正,西方可能最終會采取把中國排斥在外,建立一個新的經濟循環體係.
However, nothing is absolute. there is a good chance that the economic situation in the west will not be better after Yan's appreciation though. What will you say about that then?
肯定的.如果中國有一天達到了外貿平衡,那將是世界的幸運.
國際金融自從金本位製垮台之後就成了以美元為中心的運作體製。所謂匯率就是本國貨幣和其他外國貨幣的兌換比率。在沒有人為幹涉的情況之下，貨幣的價值應該同其他商品一樣由市場機製來決定，即demand和supply這個供求關係來決定。所謂通貨膨脹就是因為貨幣的供應量超過了流通貨幣的需求量，那麽，貨幣的價值就會下降。而貨幣的發行量是由各國政府自己控製的，所以一個國家要發展，就必須保持本國貨幣價值的相對穩定。這是貨幣對本國經濟而言，老百姓都希望自己手中的錢可以保持其購買力。不然就會人心惶惶，發生社會動亂。但是，當本國貨幣相對本國經濟相對穩定時，貨幣的價值又會受到出口增長的影響，中國的出口換回來的大多是美元，而美元又不能自由兌換人民幣，所以這就造成國內對人民幣需求的上升壓力，從而導致人民幣相對美元升值的趨勢。要解決這個問題實在很難。所以中國外匯儲備越高，人民幣升值的壓力就越大。其實，中國政府人為操作匯率也不是解決問題的辦法，當然這樣做，其目的是為了保護國內那些依靠出口生存的中小企業和保持社會的就業率，但是長期這樣恐怕將來積重難返，所以最近中國政府宣布增加匯率的浮動幅度。當然美國是人民幣升值在欠債上的受益者，但是美國老百姓也不一定受益，因為從中國進口商品價格會明顯上漲，美元相對中國製造商品的購買力就會相對下降，從而導致美國的通貨膨脹。開放式的經濟就是這樣相互影響的。這種國與國之間的貿易和貨幣問題是無法解決的，除非，有一天大家使用國際通用貨幣。但是哪一個權威機構可以發行這種國際通用貨幣呢？
We will see. If you are correct, there should be a possility that the economy in the west will be going better after Yuan's appreciation. Time will tell.
麽無知, 但昨天ABC的一位節目主持人的一句話讓我懷疑很多有頭有臉的老美真的很無知,這位主持人竟然說
"Xingjiang(新疆) was conquered by Red China about 60 years ago". 政客的智商不可能低，
但選票第一,不敬業，太懶，太自以為是.