有Group member 在問CPA找工作的問題,我先預定這個版麵啦

第一個工作問題,有人提過,請討論一下:

但是如果沒工作經驗，你是CPA,CFA，應聘entry level,會不會有overqualified的問題呢？

第二個工作問題,本人正在找工作,已經有一月啦.聽說現在會計很容易找工作,可是還沒有什麽音信.
我主要找的是政府工,登記了二十份審計工作,都是聯邦政府.但又不知道夠不夠,再申請多幾十份才夠?如果你們有看我的簡曆,其實我一直都在為人民服務.去年我在政府做審計的時候心情奇好.你在BIG 4也許不很厲害,但是到了政府,你可是頂尖級人馬.保證一年升一級.如果你們有移民局的經曆,其實跟平民講話的都是小官,看他們的口氣,好牛啊...........GS-9(副縣長待遇, 多小的官,從七品) 以上的人永遠也不用見customer.我老板GS-13,(副州長的待遇)幾個平時是上帝一般的團長(軍隊裏麵長官就是再生父母)見了她都要畢恭畢敬.我坐在老板的前麵,團長們路過了以為我是什麽新來的高手.居然招呼問好.有幸我的幾個老板都是13,他們的地位雷打不動,都沒比我們這些菜鳥多讀幾年書,不知何是CPA,竟然是總預算師.很多CPA混了一輩子還是個Controller.

沒什麽,就是年輕的時候比其他人每天多幹了一個小時.中年的時候比別人反而幹得都少.去那裏找這樣的工作啊.如果你在BIG 4,要多幹幾天一個星期.如果你真的不想發財,沒什麽區別.政府的綜合待遇比BIG 4 的好.我混在裏麵幾年了,造就了我這樣一代想吃納稅人錢糧的新人. 如果你想幹一番驚天動地的事業,政府也可以,官大了,可以直接上書到議會改預算,提審計報告,你退休前會有機會的.

可惜我混的是小城市大部門,現在想找個大城市小一點也可以的部門居然找苦了.你們有誰有找政府工作的經驗呢,是不是要多申請幾十個工作啊.現在政府的都是網上申請了,懶得見你,順便查查你的祖宗是幹什麽的.還有,BIG 4 我都申請了,他們比政府的人還牛啊,居然像打火箭一樣,去了不回.BIG 4去不了,BIG 20 我也申請了,他們也是小牛啊.雖然我不是什麽名校畢業,但拒絕信也給我一封啊.

請你們提些意見,好讓我再努力一下. 謝謝啊.

[初夏的果實]

I'm going to take CPA exam in CA. I'm evaluated my coursework right now.

The bachelor degree I got from China has been accepted by board-approved agency, but the agency didn't show how many units in accounting courses, how many units in business-related courses.CA board requires 24 units in Accounting and 24 units in Business-related.

My major is Business and Economics, so I think the units in accounting courses are not enough. I realized from website of CA Board of Accountancy, the courses I took from a vocational school are acceptale, but this school just evaluates coursework by hour, not unit. Could anybody advise how many hours are required by CA board of Accountancy? How can I do in this situation? Thank you for any reply.

[alicewye]

回複枯鴉的評論:
You're welcome! Good luck!

[枯鴉]

回複alicewye的評論:
thanks a lot for the information. I have sent out my application to CES. After making a quick accessment, I have made decision to sit for Delaware States. I know that whole lot factors will be involved regarding certification and license, well, I'm going to warry about it until the time comes. However, I really do appreciate your prompt response.

[alicewye]

回複枯鴉的評論:
Also, if you have any question about the process, please be more detail, so that we can help. :)

[alicewye]

回複枯鴉的評論:
I think you should follow whatever the board website asks you to do, because they are the one to process and say yes to your case.

[fsnb8118]

回複枯鴉的評論:
I just sent your question though the group email. I will let you know if there is any update news. Thanks.

[枯鴉]

fsnb8118,
想請教一下報考Delaware州的情況。我打算今年7月考，還沒報名，網上找了好多資料，太雜，也去了Delaware的board網頁。想在報名前得高人指點！多謝！

[Chunky]

回複fsnb8118的評論:
In CA, you have to send everything including the check to the agency, or they won't process. :)

[fsnb8118]

回複初夏的果實的評論:
Try not to pay anything up front!!! They are accoutants expert in cash collection. It took me three days to finish the packet.

[Chunky]

回複初夏的果實的評論:
Send your sealed tran and diploma to th evaluation agency. They will send the evaluated tran to CA board. It won't take 9-month. At most 2 months.

[初夏的果實]

Thank everybody for your answer.They are really helpful.

I have already checked website of Board of California Accountancy and got a lot of information.I know the firstble is evaluation.The evaluation report will be available in 9 months. Is that correct?

[Chunky]

回複初夏的果實的評論:
Evaluate your tran first. You can check out all the information you need from CA accounting board. If you have questions, call them. They are really helpful on phone.

[alicewye]

回複初夏的果實的評論:
Hi. I hope my little information can help.
1. go to CA accountancy board website to check for the requiremen(http://www.dca.ca.gov/cba/forms/exambk1.pdf).
Check the FAQ. It has a detail page about foreign education.
2. Evaluation your tran from China. (website has info). As I know, community college credits which can be transfers to a 4 year university are countable towards to the eduacation requirement in NorthCarolina. But double check with the accountacy board in CA.
3. Once you applied, approved, you will get a NTS, then you can schedule your exam by that time. :)
Hope this can help.

[初夏的果實]

本人在南加州，菜鳥一隻，甚至都不知如何開始evaluation credit,很希望能有前輩及同道中人來指點一二。我在國內貿易經濟本科畢業，學習過會計課程，但不是major, 在美國沒有相關學曆，隻是在社區大學晚上上accounting的基礎課程，同時在一家wholesale公司做全職bookkeeper.很希望能在這個專業裏有進一步發展，希望不是癡人說夢。
能否懇請各位不吝賜教，如何入門？例如如何報名，如何審核學分，如果學分不夠，能有多久可以補上學分？報名後多久必須考試？考試流程是怎樣的？
抱歉這麽多菜鳥問題。多謝答複，並保持聯絡。

[fsnb8118]

回複Chunky的評論:
Hhahahahaha, from GS-9 to Gs-12 is non-competitive position, raise once a year. GS-12 above you have to compete with others........but all you need is MBA!!!! hahahahaha. My boss doesn't have a degree.......they cannot fire her, but send her to school for a year with pay........what kind job is that.

By the way, you can go up really fast in the government, but you have to win the election to be a leader.....I cannnot speak that kind of good English to win 2008 election.

[Chunky]

You are soooo funny. I showed your article to my husband. He said: Wow...Promotion every year!!! You will be our President in a few years!!! Hahahah.... We enjoy your article....Keep on.

[alicewye]

fsnb8118: 搞笑！！！我也在找工作，我不介意小城市大部門， 什麽時候也介紹我去做做啊。 哈哈哈。

[alicewye]

Hello, is anyone here working for accounting firms? I just graduated in Dec. 2006, B.S. Accounting. I am looking for jobs, could anyone give me some advice? For example, big company vs.small company, accounting firm vs. corporation ect. Thanks a lot.

[alicewye]

回複quicklearner的評論:
I agree with you. Actually I like the way how the CPA exam design. Before taking the exam, I learn most of the stuff from school, but just learn, never really apply to a case, but CPA exams require us to understand and know how to apply. Great experience!

[quicklearner]

I dont know about CFA, but as far as CPA, you have to have at least one year qualified working experience to be a CPA.To me, learning is the key, so no overqualify issue.

[fsnb8118]

回複oharaJP的評論:
Please check my updates in the other section, I got an article for you.

[oharaJP]

Hi, there. This is a great Blog. Well, I just graduated in Toronto with a bachelor degree major in business administration. I am planning to take severl accounting course then to write the CPA test. My question is since I don't have any working experience in accouting field, can I still write the test to get a CPA certificate first. If so, which state will you guys recommend for me? Thank you so much.

[alicewye]

頂一下！

[fsnb8118]

本文章是引用他人的作品.

CPA是注冊會計師(Certified Public Accoutant)的英文縮寫，是指依法取得注冊
會計師證書並接受委托從事審計和會計谘詢、會計服務業務的執業人員。注冊會
計師主要承接的工作有審查企業的會計報表，出具審計報告；驗證企業資本，出
具驗資報告；辦理企業合並、分立、清算事宜中的審計業務，出具有關的報告；
法律、行政法規規定的其他審計業務等。尤其是在執行上市公司審計時，注冊會
計師不僅要鑒證一個公司是否遵循了法律、法規和製度，而且還要判定其會計報
表是否遵循了真實性、公允性和一貫性原則。由注冊會計師依法執行審計業務出
具的報告，具有證明效力。

英國特許公認會計師公會
(The Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, 簡稱 ACCA)
成立於1904年，是目前全球最大的國際會計師組織。ACCA 的國際地位舉足輕重，
聯合國於確定其環球課程時， 亦是以ACCA 的課程作為藍本。



學員完成14張考卷並積累3年相關工作經驗，可申請成為ACCA 會員，並授予 “特
許公認會計師”稱銜，可使用ACCA作為頭銜。

ACCA是世界上大多數國家都承認的,但是由於地方保護主義,也就是保護本國的會
計師,雖然在企業任職可以,在事務所做鑒證業務就不行了,舉例:ACCA在中國可以
作到跨國公司的CFO,但是不能在審計報告上簽字.目前為止,能在國內審計報告上
簽字的隻有CPA,CPA分為執業和非執業兩種,看清楚,是執業不是職業,執業可以在
審計報告上簽字,非執業不行,但是可以在企業任職,不過要想進入跨國公司還要英
語好,CPA共有5科:會計審計財務成本管理經濟法稅法,要求在5年之內全部通
過,否則到第六年還未全部通過的話,第一年的成績作廢,第七年還未全過,則第二
年的成績作廢,以此類推,即單科成績有效5年.ACCA一共14科,分為三個階段,第一
階段3科,第二階段6科,第三階段5科,單科成績有效10年,中國和英國有互相承認
的協議，所以通過CPA的考ACCA可以免考第一階段全部課程和第二階段的13課
程，另外第三部分5科中前兩科是從4科中選兩科,如果發展方向是企業就選企業
方向,如果發展方向是事務所就選鑒證方向,第三部分的後3科必須在一次考試中
同時報名,不允許分著報名,且必須三科全過才有效,如果隻過兩科,那麽沒過的
一科也要達到40分,這樣過了的兩科成績可以保留一次,如果沒夠40分或者隻過一
科,則白搭,至於工資,具體要看個人的能力,CPA中有佼佼者,ACCA中也有廢物點心
,能過ACCA的人未必過的了CPA,因為CPA答案唯一，不允許個人的發揮,錯就是錯
,對就是對,ACCA允許個人的發揮,答案不唯一,你可以有自己的想法,隻要你的想
法合理，ACCA是很注重個人能力的,CPA不是不注重個人能力,而是因為這個行業
在我國起步晚(91年,國外是上百年)所以國外認為我們的考試不夠權威,為了打消
國外的想法,財政部將CPA考試設計的極為變態,超難，想考就要有充分的思想準
備,ACCA則要求外語好.以上意見僅供參考,祝好運.



文章來自: cpa和ACCA
作者:無間鬱 日期:09/08/2006 08:57:44

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