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學術采訪UW-Madison的Tom Yin教授

(2023-11-07 06:38:09) 下一個

Tom是我的第二任博士後導師,他在三歲的時候從上海全家移民到美國。普林斯頓畢業後,在 University of Wisconsin-Madison 大學做了幾十年的教授,是聽力神經係統研究界的泰鬥之一。

(題外話)有趣的是,我老公特別佩服Tom的母親,西南聯大的畢業生,在那個年代可以和清華北大齊名。老太太我們見過兩三次,90多歲高齡,淑女與學者氣質集為一身。下麵這篇采訪是我離開Tom實驗室,自己獨立後回頭找他做的。

I’m very excited to have Dr. Yin here, not only because he is my former postdoc adviser, but because during the four years I worked with him, when he was overburdened with administrative duties, we never had a conversation as long as this one.
 
Fiona: Your independent research began at University of Wisconsin Madison 38 years ago. Over the years, what was the biggest change you have observed in the way people conduct research?
 
Dr. Yin: I think the biggest difference is that faculty now spend much more time writing grant proposals than I did. Of course the reason for that is the present prolonged period of tight funding compared to when I started out. Funding has usually been rather cyclical with up and down cycles but the present 5-10 year severe depression is very worrisome, especially as there is no end in sight. During most of my research career, one expected to get funded when applying to NIH. Nowadays, it seems like the hope is not to be triaged! As a consequence I only wrote about 10 grant proposals during that 38 year period. Nowadays, PIs are writing that many proposals in 2 or 3 years!! I couldn’t possibly come up so many ideas for grants.
 
Fiona: As a young investigator, I totally agree. If the overall funding situation remains, could you think of strategies the government may adopt to ease up the competition?
 
Dr. Yin: One of the irritating aspects of present NIH funding is that there are quite a few very large laboratories that have multiple NIH grants. I personally know several labs with 8 and 9 R01 grants. I believe NIH is now implementing a policy to prevent this from happening, but I would strongly recommend that some reasonable cap (two or three) be implemented on the number of NIH grants to any given P.I. Obviously some policy on collaborative grants needs to be included in such a rule.
 
Fiona: Your lab is stuffed with equipment my age. Are there advantages of using primitive electronics over the fancy ones made more recently?
 
Dr. Yin: No, I just have a difficult time throwing anything away so the old equipment stays in the lab.
 
Fiona: Really? I thought there were old-equipment magic. At the moment, what is the biggest obstacle in the auditory research that hinders further advancement of the field? In other words, what existing problem would you like to be solved first?
 
Dr. Yin: I think the biggest problem in brain research, not just auditory, is to understand how the nervous system integrates information from individual neurons to produce perception, action, decisions, and other higher order functions. We now know a lot about how individual neurons respond to different stimuli or to produce different actions, and under different behavioral conditions but we understand very little about how the responses of many neurons are integrated to generate behavior. In visual research this is often referred to as the binding problem: how does the CNS take information about the shape, color, orientation, 3D form, etc. of an object which appears to be encoded by different visual areas and put it all together to give us a percept of a person running, for example.
 
Fiona: When a large department with a long history recruits new faculty, what are the major considerations people tend to have?
 
Dr. Yin: There are a number of important considerations that departments generally have when looking to hire new faculty. Among them are the following: the faculty member has a history of productive research as judged by publications during the graduate and post-doctoral years, that he/she is doing interesting and important research that has a high likelihood of getting funded in the future, sometimes departments are looking for faculty working in specific areas, indications that the faculty member will be a good colleague within the department and school with interest in collaboration with existing labs, and the faculty member will be a good mentor and teacher.

Fiona: You’ve trained more than a dozen graduate students and postdocs. Despite the escalating competition, all but two successfully landed jobs in academia. Did you only recruit students who were willing to make a commitment, or was there a secret in how you mentored them?
 
Dr. Yin: No, I don’t think I ever asked a student if they were interested in an academic career, at least not when they applied to work in the lab so this was not a way to screen potential students. I think I was lucky to find students and postdocs who were really talented and hardworking and also really liked doing science and just wanted that to be their career. Having a productive graduate and postgraduate experience also helps.
 
Fiona: I still think there has to be something more than luck. Would you like to offer some advice to young researchers in their earlier careers?
 
Dr. Yin: I always tell students who are considering a research career that the most important thing to me is that you be excited about doing research. It’s unlikely that you will become rich or famous in academia, so what has to drive you during the inevitable hard times when experiments aren’t working or funding is tight or reviewers are obstinate is the love of the science. So if you aren’t excited about coming into the lab in the morning, then try to work on a problem that will get you excited.
 
Fiona: And if we fail in the end, at least we’ve had some wonderful time. That might be too permissive. Let me put it the other way: if we are excited about what we do, we have a better chance of getting the reviewers excited. Okay, thank you so much, my mentor! I wish you a happy retirement (with still more teaching responsibilities, of course)!
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阿芒 回複 悄悄話 回複 'FionaRawson' 的評論 : 發博客裏了。你會感興趣的,嘿嘿。
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '阿芒' 的評論 : 阿芒好,這裏高學曆的好多:)等你發文!
阿芒 回複 悄悄話 有書香儒雅之氣的老太太特別有魅力,我的導師也是個老太太,也特別有風度。
阿芒 回複 悄悄話 高妹一定是我們這裏學曆最高的,博士後啊,厲害厲害!怪不得英文也都讀的原著。
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '南瓜蘇' 的評論 : 對,他這個人說話是“真學者”的感覺。老一輩較多,現在好像不多見了,都很浮躁,唉。
南瓜蘇 回複 悄悄話 尊師溫文儒雅,大師氣派。西南聯大,了不起,書香世界。
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '悉采心' 的評論 : 畫牆?媽呀,采心真是好母親!我家的已經初中高中了,現在是每天抱著電腦和手機,其他的事讓幹都不幹了:)
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '望沙' 的評論 : 沙沙女兒看來是公司的中流砥柱,無需擔心。確實是一代比一代更加不好預測啊,不過咱們的子女已經在起跑線上超過大部分完全不管孩子的西方父母了,西方人就是一直以來資源來優越,沒有華人一代移民那種危機感。
悉采心 回複 悄悄話 回複 'FionaRawson' 的評論 :

容我慢慢寫來啊————期待著:))
悉采心 回複 悄悄話
難怪高妹鬼怪精靈,文理通吃,原來是名師出高徒啊!

剛看到高妹上次的回複。。。恭喜高妹買房後的喬遷之喜!別的好處不說,兩個小家夥可以在自己房間的牆上隨便塗鴉了。俺當初就是讓俺家倆娃、這麽慶祝入住新家的,哈哈:))
望沙 回複 悄悄話 回複 'FionaRawson' 的評論 :女兒老板高中發家,大學就成立了自己的公司。所以卷也是相對的,如果是天才風口北美的環境還是比國內多和容易,也不存在所謂的卷,隻是打工的不容易,我老了是被時代淘汰出局的人了。電子的世界,孩子們都是在電化環境中成長起來的,不一樣了。
望沙 回複 悄悄話 回複 'FionaRawson' 的評論 : 反正現在亂世到處卷,現在新的ai技術出來了,chstgpt4更新,高科技產業都風聲鶴唳,年輕人很多人都要失業了,女兒公司前麵裁了70%,剩餘的人才稍喘口氣,說上個月有些好消息,有心情吃喝玩樂了,現在新技術又公布了,這個新年他們又不好過了,當時他們老板公司有穀歌收購,價錢不錯,老板沒賣,現在看,沒法說,也許賭對了。她老板非常年輕,就是高中靠數字貨幣發家成為億萬富豪,現在沒有人哭哈哈搞基礎研究了,風口浪尖產業都是互聯網,數字化產品。時代變了。
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '可能成功的P' 的評論 : 美國其實這些年被印度和中國的一些學者給“卷”成了這個樣的,唉。但是國內更糟,容我慢慢寫來啊(星級)
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '望沙' 的評論 : 你說得真好!我也覺得是那種當學者、當道長都一副德高望重的感覺啊,嗬嗬。
可能成功的P 回複 悄悄話 高妹高能!
導師真的向沙沙講的那樣,麵相不俗:)
美國(也許是世界)過於被資本牽著鼻子走。基礎研究被資金逼到了角落裏。大量人才流失。想想就令人難過。這種環境下還能守住清貧一心問學的,無論是導師還是學生都十分可貴。
望沙 回複 悄悄話 回複 'FionaRawson' 的評論 : 也屬於地山謙,並且這個山還很高:)
望沙 回複 悄悄話 回複 'FionaRawson' 的評論 : 看你導師麵相,有些仙氣啊,如果穿上仙袍會特別有味道,鼻子是他的基業,非常飽滿發達,臉上中下三庭也是飽滿,
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '邵豐慧' 的評論 : 謝謝豐慧鼓勵啊,我每天確實是忙得團團轉:)經常上一件事和下一件事,之間隻有五分鍾的喘息:)上廁所是一定要抱著電腦去寫的,不過其實呢,好多不忙的也是大部分時間花在了手機聊天短視頻上,還不如寫作是吧?嗬嗬
邵豐慧 回複 悄悄話 a young investigator!-- impressive. how do you manage all of these, work as an investigator, writing two novels at the same time,...
So if you aren’t excited about coming into the lab in the morning, then try to work on a problem that will get you excited.-- applies to every job.
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '望沙' 的評論 : 沙沙老公也是書香世家啊!是我導師的母親,我老公的母親(我婆婆)沒啥文化,嘿嘿。

那個年代的高材生和咱們現在就是不同,他們是一眼看去就特別有那種學者文人的姿態。現在的教育太“實用”。



望沙 回複 悄悄話 回複 '菲兒天地' 的評論 : +1000
望沙 回複 悄悄話 我都懷疑我公公和你老公的母親是校友,不過公公去世幾年了,好像也是西南聯大的,隔空擁抱你。
望沙 回複 悄悄話 高妹貴了,英文的啊,拜讀困難,嗬嗬,讚
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '新林院' 的評論 : 哦,原來如此,謝謝你的指正!
新林院 回複 悄悄話 【西南聯大的畢業生,在那個年代可以和清華北大齊名。】
更準確的說法是:西南聯大在那個年代就是清華北大。
抗日戰爭期間,清華和北大離開北京,搬遷到雲南,組成西南聯大,繼續教學。
抗日戰爭結束後,西南聯大解散,清華和北大回到北京。
FionaRawson 回複 悄悄話 回複 '菲兒天地' 的評論 : 菲兒建議很好!剛改的時候發現推薦上主頁改不了了。現在的學術界除了錢就是“卷”文章,有品位的研究不多了,唉。
菲兒天地 回複 悄悄話 讚高妹好文,你的博士導師非常棒。“think the biggest difference is that faculty now spend much more time writing grant proposals than I did.” 現在的大學教授做研究還真是要花不少時間去爭取外麵的研究經費。 象牙塔也不是像普通人想象的那樣輕鬆自在。感覺學校的名字還是用英文University of Wisconsin–Madison更貼切:)
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