英國搖滾樂歌手回懟CNN：不知道去讀書
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北京時間7日，一段涉及中國大陸與台灣地區關係的采訪視頻在推特上引發關注。
這段采訪來自美國有線電視新聞網（CNN），對話二人分別是英國知名搖滾樂隊平克·弗洛伊德（Pink Floyd）聯合創始人、歌手羅格·沃特斯，以及CNN主持人邁克爾•史默克，雙方談到沃特斯此前巡演中包含的政治元素，比如演出大屏幕曾出現指責美國總統拜登是“戰爭犯”的蒙太奇圖像，隨後還談到關於中國大陸與台灣地區的關係，沃特斯當麵反駁史默克稱：“台灣是中國的一部分”，他還告誡後者：“如果你不知道，那麽你讀書讀得還不夠。去讀讀書吧”。
CNN 7日發布了該采訪視頻片段。據音樂網站Stereogum報道，視頻開始，主持人史默克問到沃特斯巡演中那些“很明顯的政治元素”，比如布景屏幕曾出現的指責美國總統拜登是“戰爭犯”的蒙太奇圖像，對此沃特斯談及當前俄烏衝突，回答道：“嗯，他（拜登）是在火上澆油，這是巨大的犯罪，為什麽美國不去鼓勵澤連斯基去談判，以避免這場可怕戰爭的發生呢？”
Roger Waters tells CNN why Biden is a war criminal
“但你這是在責怪被‘入侵’的那一方，”史默克稱，“你把事情搞反了。”
“所有戰爭，都是從什麽時候開始的？你需要做的是看看曆史，然後你可以說，‘嗯，它是從這一天開始的’。你可以說這場戰爭始於2008年…… 這場戰爭基本是關於北約向俄羅斯邊境推進的行動和相應反應，而在戈爾巴喬夫時代，他們（北約）曾承諾不會這麽做，”沃特斯回應說。
對該采訪進行文字報道的音樂網站Stereogum稱，這之後二人話題最終聊到了中國大陸與台灣地區的關係，並且對話氛圍變得逐漸激烈。
視頻顯示，主持人史默克顯然談起了近期中國大陸因美眾議院議長佩洛西竄台在台島周邊開展的軍事演訓行動，他聲稱“中國人正忙著包圍台灣（地區）”……
“他們不是在包圍台灣，”沃特斯立馬打斷問話，反駁稱：“台灣是中國的一部分，自1948年以來，整個國際社會都完全接受了這一點，如果你不知道，那麽你讀書讀得還不夠。去讀讀書吧。”
在發布相關視頻的推文下方，沃特斯這一表態也收獲了不少網友讚同。↓
“做得好，羅格·沃特斯！！！”
“必須喜歡羅格·沃特斯。一直熱愛。”
“不管他是音樂家還是曆史學家，他明白事理！”
還有網友頗為諷刺地對CNN這段采訪感到很“驚訝”：“我真的很驚訝CNN采訪了他…… 但我猜他們現在一定後悔了。”↓
關於台灣問題的曆史經緯，中方曾反複明確說明。本月3日中國外交部例行記者會上，發言人華春瑩再次表示，台灣問題的曆史經緯和法理事實清晰明了，任何人、任何勢力都否定不了、歪曲不了。遠的不說，隻說二戰結束時，中國對台灣的權益在1943年《開羅宣言》和1945年《波茨坦公告》中都寫得非常明確，即日本必須歸還包括台灣、澎湖列島在內的一切在中國所竊取之領土。1971年聯大第2758號決議規定，恢複中華人民共和國的一切權利，再次確認一個中國原則。
華春瑩還表示，中國政府和中國人民在台灣問題上的立場一以貫之。堅決維護國家主權和領土完整是14億多中國人民的堅定意誌，實現祖國完全統一是全體中華兒女的共同心願和神聖職責。民意不可違，大勢不可逆。任何國家、任何勢力、任何人都不要錯估中國政府和人民捍衛國家主權和領土完整、實現國家統一和民族複興的堅強決心、堅定意誌和強大能力。
有關英國搖滾樂隊平克·弗洛伊德及其聯合創始人羅格·沃特斯，公開資料顯示，該樂隊1965年在倫敦成立，由貝斯手羅格·沃特斯、吉他手大衛·吉爾摩、鼓手尼克·馬森、鍵盤手理查德·懷特以及吉他手西德·巴勒特組成。作為貝司手、主唱之一，以及樂隊許多曲目的詞曲作者，羅格·沃特斯一直是平克·弗洛伊德樂隊的核心人物。
英歌手受訪："台灣是中國的一部分，不懂就去讀書"
https://www.iask.ca/news/322540?
英國搖滾樂團平克佛洛伊德（Pink Floyd）前主唱羅傑沃特斯（RogerWaters）日前接受美國有線電視新聞網（CNN）訪問時，稱”台灣是中國的一部分”，引來各界撻伐。
“新聞周刊”（Newsweek）今天報導，CNN主播史默柯尼希（MichaelSmerconish）最近訪問羅傑沃特斯，請他談談This Is Not aDrill巡回演出中的政治麵向。觀眾們會在這場演出中，看到多名”戰犯”的蒙太奇，其中包括美國總統拜登。
羅傑沃特斯談到為何把拜登列為”戰犯”時說：”首先，他對烏克蘭問題火上加油。”
“這可是滔天大罪，美國為何不鼓勵（烏克蘭）總統澤倫斯基談判，好避免這場可怕的戰爭？”
史默柯尼希回應說，羅傑沃特斯完全”倒果為因”並”怪罪被入侵的一方”，但羅傑沃特斯不以為然，認為這是”對北大西洋公約組織（NATO）推進至俄羅斯邊界的行動和反應”。
羅傑沃特斯對史默柯尼希說，他應該”試著弄清楚，如果中國在墨西哥或加拿大境內部署能攜帶核彈頭的飛彈，美國會怎麽做”。
史默柯尼希此時打斷說：”我們說話的當下，中國人正忙著包圍台灣。”
羅傑沃特斯馬上回嘴說：”他們沒有包圍台灣！台灣是中國的一部分。1948年以來整個國際社會就完全接受這點，如果你連那都不知道，就是書讀得不夠多，去翻點書吧。”
羅傑沃特斯的言論在推特引發強烈反彈。澳洲戰略政策研究所（Australian Strategic PolicyInstitute）國防、戰略和國家安全計畫（Defense, Strategy and National SecurityProgram）副主任布瑞斯托（Alex Bristow）指出，台灣從未被共產中國統治過。
布瑞斯托發推文說：”羅傑沃特斯是站在哪一邊的？他顯然一直生活在月球的暗麵。”
烏克蘭前駐奧地利大使謝爾巴（OlexanderScherba）也發推文說：”嘿羅傑沃特斯，你先是說不會發生戰爭，因為（俄羅斯總統）蒲亭（VladimirPutin）太好了。”
“（然後）打仗了，你又有話說啦，說這是場師出有名的戰爭。你幹嘛不搬去俄羅斯啊，你這窩囊廢、沒心沒肝、無情無義、迷失的小人物？”
華府智庫”歐洲政策分析中心”（Center for European Policy Analysis）高級研究員勞特曼（OlgaLautman）回說：”根據中國的垃圾宣傳，他是在吐槽台灣，他似乎可以選擇搬去哪裏，俄羅斯和中國，搞不好他兩邊都有拿錢。”
瑞典駐台記者悠野（JojjeOlsson）則寫道：”CNN的聯絡人名單可能缺少台灣分析家，甚至連公民都沒有。至於羅傑沃特斯，則是腦袋少了根筋。”
“新聞周刊”已聯係羅傑沃特斯的公關詢問看法。
Roger Waters slams 'war criminal' Biden, defends China and Russia
'He's fuelling the fire in the Ukraine, for a start — that is a huge crime'
Roger Waters found himself trending Monday morning after the Pink Floyd frontman branded U.S. President Joe Biden a “war criminal” and defended the Chinese government telling CNN’s Michael Smerconish they “didn’t invade Iraq and kill a million people.”
Waters, who is currently criss-crossing North America with his This Is Not a Drill tour, sat down with the TV host to talk politics and was asked why he uses an image of Biden during his concert with the words, “War criminal — just getting started,” during the show.
“President Biden? He’s fuelling the fire in the Ukraine, for a start — that is a huge crime,” Waters responded. “That’s a huge crime. Why won’t the United States of America encourage (Volodymyr) Zelenskyy to negotiate, obviating the need for this horrific, horrendous war?”
When Smerconish said that Waters was seemingly placing blame on Ukraine after it was invaded, the 78-year-old musician fired back.
“Well, any war, when did it start? What you need to do is look at the history, and you can say, ‘Well, it started on this day.’ You could say it started in 2008 … This war is basically about the action and reaction of NATO pushing right up to the Russian border, which they promised they wouldn’t do when (Mikhail) Gorbachev negotiated the withdrawal of the U.S.S.R. from the whole of Eastern Europe.”
Smerconish and Waters also sparred over China’s fresh military drills around Taiwan in response to U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to the self-governed island.
“They’re not encircling Taiwan,” Waters denounced, “Taiwan is a part of China! And that has been accepted by the whole of the international community since 1948 — if you don’t know that, you’re not reading enough.”
Smerconish fired back, saying that China was “at the top of the list” for human rights abuses, which prompted Waters to reply: “The Chinese didn’t invade Iraq and kill a million people in 2003 … who have the Chinese invaded?”
“Their own,” Smerconish interjected, referring to the persecution of the Uyghurs.
“Bollocks,” Waters replied, “absolute nonsense … You should go away and read a bit more and try and figure out what the U.S. would do if the Chinese were putting nuclear-armed missiles into Mexico and Canada.”
Waters also praised Russia for defending the world against Hilter’s “Nazi menace” during the Second World War.
“You got into World War Two because of Pearl Harbor. You were completely isolationists,” Waters argued. “Thank God the Russians had already won the bloody war by then. Twenty-three million Russians died, protecting you and me from the Nazi menace.”
Waters’ rant divided social media, with some praising the legendary rocker for not shying away from controversial topics.
Actor Jesse Metcalfe said Waters was “dropping knowledge!,” while another fan observed, “Waters has been consistent his entire life. He opposes belligerent U.S. imperialism, by far the most destructive force on the planet. It’s absolutely normal to do that, it’s healthy. The only people who aren’t are those deeply affected by relentless corporate media propaganda.”
But Piers Morgan called the bassist, who in the past has been accused of anti-Israel rhetoric, “the dumbest rock star in history.”
Waters seems to know that his comments are dividing fans of his music, but he is unmoved. During the This Is Not a Drill tour, the show comes with a stern warning before the music starts. “If you’re one of those, ‘I love Pink Floyd, but I can’t stand Roger’s politics’ people, you might do well to f— off to the bar right now.”
“That’s a really good way to start the show,” Waters quipped.
Last month, the musician courted controversy when he declared himself “more important” than Toronto music stars The Weeknd and Drake.
Learning that there wasn’t much media interest in his two Toronto shows because his concerts fell on the same night as The Weeknd’s scheduled gig at Rogers Centre, he told The Globe and Mail: “I have no idea what or who The Weeknd is because I don’t listen to much music.”
Waters then hit out at Drake, saying, “And, by the way, with all due respect to The Weeknd or Drake or any of them. I am far, far, far more important than any of them will ever be, however many billions of streams they’ve got. There is stuff going on here that is fundamentally important to all of our lives.”
On social media, Waters was billed as an out-of-touch “old man yelling at the clouds” with one Twitter user calling him a “selfish privileged white boomer.”
