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股市價值投資常識如何能幫助實現三個自由

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“You don’t need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beats the guy with 130 IQ.”

“If you are in the investment business and have an IQ of 150, sell 30 points to someone else.”  - 巴菲特

我相信有許多人的智商確實是高於120的,而且其中的大部分人也非常清楚自己的高智商,所以這些高智商的人才會認為自己可以超越平淡無奇的常識性的投資基礎知識,創造出超越普通常識的股市奇跡。
 

這些曾經夢想要創造出超越普通常識的股市奇跡的高智商者,不少人最終是在出租房生意中找到“一個真實的自己”。

當年我愛說如果對賭博研究透了再投錢就是投資,如果是沒研究好就投錢的所謂投資其實是賭博,本人從來不賭博。”

- 賭遍全球

“本人從來不賭博。”-  賭遍全球                                            本人從來不炒股。”- 股市小書生

 能夠理解賭遍全球的話所包含的邏輯,基本也可以立刻領會價值投資模式所包含的邏輯。芒格有句名言,
 

They bet big when they have the odds. And the rest of the time, they don't. It's just that simple.

以我個人的學習感受(僅僅是個人觀點),投資的全部精髓都可以濃縮在芒格這一句話中,這句話背後的理論邏輯是凱利公式。

投資與人的性格是有關係的,不要將性格與人格/人品/聰慧等等混淆。許多人一輩子對股市的認知都隻能停留在“炒股”的層麵上,而永遠也不會嚐試接觸“投資”的層麵。這就如同許多人永遠也無法理解為什麽“賭遍全球從來不賭博”。

沃倫.巴菲特:“一個人,要麽在30秒內接受價值投資,要麽永遠也接受不了價值投資。我從來不曾見過任何人,會在10年之後才逐漸地皈依這種方法。它似乎和智商或學術訓練無關。它是頓悟,否則就是拒絕。”

如果你第一次接觸到價值投資模式沒啥感覺,隻能說這種投資模式不太符合你的性格。比如投資和投機的高手野花網友說過,自己的兒子學習的是經濟,但是投資不行,教也教不會。

老朽的帖子提到了一個1994的投資房的例子。老巴95%以上的財富是在1994年以後掙到的,當然在1994年時,老巴已經很有錢了。這說明老巴的價值投資模式即可以管理大資金,更寶貴的是還能夠將大規模的資金增值,而且是維持長期的合理增值水平。

原意將多少比例的財產放在股市之中,應該也是與性格相關的,老巴是99.999%, 我自己是200%。


 

2011年,老巴印度之行的談話

“If you look at the typical stock on the New York Stock Exchange, its high will be, perhaps, for the last 12 months will be 150 percent of its low so they’re bobbing all over the place. All you have to do is sit there and wait until something is really attractive that you understand.”

“There’s almost nothing where the game is stacked more in your favor like the stock market”

“What happens is people start listening to everybody talk on television or whatever it may be or read the paper, and they take what is a fundamental advantage and turn it into a disadvantage. There’s no easier game than stocks. You have to be sure you don’t play it too often”


在我認真學習,理解,思考,掌握並實踐了價值投資模式之後,我選擇將自己所有的財富都放在股市投資 之中,因為
 

“There’s almost nothing where the game is stacked more in my favor like the stock market”

在去年年初的投資機遇中,實際投資地產基金的交易時間加起來也不超過一個小時,在那一個小時之後,每月有遠高於加國家庭平均收入的現金流收入, 二年增值50% ,在此期間沒有任何的交易操作需要。
 

在投資機遇發生的時刻,我非常詳細的,明確的告訴了所有人為什麽要做,該怎麽做。

如果有人想問 ”難道這一個小時的成功成果就能超過一個普通工薪族一輩子的勞作?“

 

 很多事情你隻要努力付出了,沒功勞也有苦勞,勤奮會有個基本的收益保障。但投資這行既殘酷又簡單的特征在於,從來不問你付出了多少,而隻看你對不對。這種類別的工作,努力是第二位的,第一位是正確的價值觀和方法論。否則,方向不對,越勤奮越坎坷,越癡迷越瘋魔。-  水晶蒼蠅拍

插一個前二天有人在這裏貼過的一個小笑話。  

Nikola Tesla visited Henry Ford at his factory, which was having some kind of difficulty. Ford asked Tesla if he could help identify the problem area. Tesla walked up to a wall of boilerplate and made a small X in chalk on one of the plates. Ford was thrilled, and told him to send an invoice.

The bill arrived, for $10,000. Ford asked for a breakdown. Tesla sent another invoice, indicating a $1 charge for marking the wall with an X, and $9,999 for knowing where to put it.

那麽怎樣才能尋找到這樣能夠改變自己命運的一小時呢?能夠真正理解下麵二句話是一個好的開始。
 

 They bet big when they have the odds. And the rest of the time, they don't. It's just that simple.

2011年,老巴印度之行的談話

“If you look at the typical stock on the New York Stock Exchange, its high will be, perhaps, for the last 12 months will be 150 percent of its low so they’re bobbing all over the place. All you have to do is sit there and wait until something is really attractive that you understand.”

“There’s almost nothing where the game is stacked more in your favor like the stock market”

“What happens is people start listening to everybody talk on television or whatever it may be or read the paper, and they take what is a fundamental advantage and turn it into a disadvantage. There’s no easier game than stocks. You have to be sure you don’t play it too often”
 

老巴告訴你可以改變命運的一小時年年都有,芒格告訴你應該怎麽幹。




有5百萬的主是不需要別人操心的,但是怎麽保值,享受自己的財富確實是個問題。
 

多看幾遍圖,基本上也該知道該怎麽做了。


 

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