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054A垂發係統的照片被轉到印度軍壇上後，阿三們地反應很好玩啊……
1、wonder if this pictures are taken by some civilian and posted on net then , this is not good news for PLAAN intelligence agencies atleast.
不清楚這些照片是不是平民拍攝然後貼到網上的，不過至少對於解放軍海軍情報部門，這不是什麽好新聞。（這位印度同誌替俺們地AA同誌們著急了…… ）
2、Yes, they are by fans.
沒錯，是軍迷拍的。
This is not the good trend, at least i didn't see any Indian fans did so.
這不是好現象，至少我沒見印度軍迷幹過這事兒。（沒去過印度，不知道象國內這幫有錢有閑，成天沒事就愛挎著數碼相機上船廠、機場晃攸的人有多少……）
Some Chinese is too exciting about progress in military to displined himself.
有些中國人就是看見軍事項目就激動，一激動就不管組織紀律了。（說的很傳神啊，難怪時不時總有一兩個人被AA請去喝茶。前兩天不是聽說有人因為樓上這套圖進去了，不過後來該ID出來辟謠，可是又有人提出是不是別人穿了該同誌地馬甲，總之是撲朔迷離……）
Simply because indians don't have that simple a access to any sort of military facility .The security protocol is too complicated
簡單說，印度軍迷不可能那麽容易就能靠近任何軍事設施，安全巡都是邏十分嚴密的。（某些成天嚷嚷著TG瞎保密的無良分子來看看，民主的印度，軍迷更可憐耶~~~~~~~）
I remeber my camera being snached 6 months ago when i was trying o take some shots for my pals at bhakhra {A Dam }. only after i showed with my navy ID card , i was allowed to go , but not before i had cleared my camera 's memory
我記得6個月前在bhakhra大壩，我想和我的幾個朋友合影，我相機被立刻沒收了，在我出示我的海軍證件後他們才放我走，不過先得把相機內存裏所有東西都刪除了。（某人在2006珠海航展上看到給勇士隊的蘇27加油的TG加油車上有個標誌很奇怪，拍了一張，結果駕駛員連忙跑過來要求刪除。警惕性嘛，中國軍人也不差地說……）
4、two reasons:
兩個原因
(1). Navy stuff more easily to be snapshot. Coz shipyard normally in the open air and most Chinese civil shipyard participat the Navy contract now.
海軍設施更容易被拍攝，因為通常船廠都暴露在戶外，而且多數中國的民用船廠都有軍方的項目。
(2). National spy could be track by CIA system, but how a civil carrying a camera be scout all the time.
國派間諜都被CIA監視著，可帶相機的平民就防不勝防了。
I knew some of those guys are jail by Chinese CIA, they deserved!
據我所知，有幾個家夥（因為幹這事兒）已經被中國情報機關給抓了，罪有應得！（看用詞似乎不太象國內網友，某位正義感很強的印度同誌，還是華人？）
5、open air does not mean that you can't cordon the boundary , Mazadon docks are covered with huge walls so , that no one can peep thru atleast and plus there os no huge skyline near by so that one can be look at thru height .
露天設施並不是都意味著你不能保持警戒，Mazadon船廠就被高牆圍著，至少沒人能輕易偷拍，而且周圍也沒有高層建築，沒人能利用高度往牆裏看。（沒有高層建築……這才是主因吧？ ）
yea they deserved , Chinese CIA beetre also work upon removing theses pics from webpages after all they are responsible for chineses taxpayer
對，他們活該，中國情報機關還忙於清理刪除那些被貼在網上的照片，畢竟他們得對他們的納稅人負責。
6、rockdog, So I suggest you not to post these pics here. Divulge a secret not only include disclosing a secret, but also include spreading a secret. You can find this in China's law.
rockdog，我還是建議你別在這兒鐵這些照片了，泄密不僅包括透露秘密，同時也包括傳播秘密信息，這是中國法律的定義。（猛！印度民間還有通曉中國法律的人！ ）
7、nice, and i'm reliefed newer designs didnt came out
054A has strong air defence, severly lacks ASW.
054A的防空能力很強，可它缺少反潛能力。
8、The biggest progress is the MK41 like VLS (with HQ-16) is completely made and desigend by Chinese own.
最大的進步是船上的垂發（酷似MK41）這回是完全由中國自己設計製造的。
9、damn bastards are leaking out our secrets.... btw hows this have to do with indian navy?
一群混蛋在泄密！！
順便問一下，這些根印度海軍又啥關係？（注意，是our secrets，我們的秘密。看來是某海外華人，而不會是在國內軍壇混的 ）
10、well we discuss about anythin related to navy here、
任何關於海軍的話題我們都討論。
11、rockdog good to see knowledgable chinesde members r here, indeed VLS is a not a joke to make which people thinks just a box.and i dont think it features such as MK41 need its specs.
rockdog你好，能在這（論壇上）看到有見識的中國成員真不錯，確實垂發不是小方盒子那麽簡單，而且像MK41這種的設計我認為他不會占太多空間。（終於出來了一個比較有理智的印度人 ）
1、wonder if this pictures are taken by some civilian and posted on net then , this is not good news for PLAAN intelligence agencies atleast.
不清楚這些照片是不是平民拍攝然後貼到網上的，不過至少對於解放軍海軍情報部門，這不是什麽好新聞。（這位印度同誌替俺們地AA同誌們著急了…… ）
2、Yes, they are by fans.
沒錯，是軍迷拍的。
This is not the good trend, at least i didn't see any Indian fans did so.
這不是好現象，至少我沒見印度軍迷幹過這事兒。（沒去過印度，不知道象國內這幫有錢有閑，成天沒事就愛挎著數碼相機上船廠、機場晃攸的人有多少……）
Some Chinese is too exciting about progress in military to displined himself.
有些中國人就是看見軍事項目就激動，一激動就不管組織紀律了。（說的很傳神啊，難怪時不時總有一兩個人被AA請去喝茶。前兩天不是聽說有人因為樓上這套圖進去了，不過後來該ID出來辟謠，可是又有人提出是不是別人穿了該同誌地馬甲，總之是撲朔迷離……）
Simply because indians don't have that simple a access to any sort of military facility .The security protocol is too complicated
簡單說，印度軍迷不可能那麽容易就能靠近任何軍事設施，安全巡都是邏十分嚴密的。（某些成天嚷嚷著TG瞎保密的無良分子來看看，民主的印度，軍迷更可憐耶~~~~~~~）
I remeber my camera being snached 6 months ago when i was trying o take some shots for my pals at bhakhra {A Dam }. only after i showed with my navy ID card , i was allowed to go , but not before i had cleared my camera 's memory
我記得6個月前在bhakhra大壩，我想和我的幾個朋友合影，我相機被立刻沒收了，在我出示我的海軍證件後他們才放我走，不過先得把相機內存裏所有東西都刪除了。（某人在2006珠海航展上看到給勇士隊的蘇27加油的TG加油車上有個標誌很奇怪，拍了一張，結果駕駛員連忙跑過來要求刪除。警惕性嘛，中國軍人也不差地說……）
4、two reasons:
兩個原因
(1). Navy stuff more easily to be snapshot. Coz shipyard normally in the open air and most Chinese civil shipyard participat the Navy contract now.
海軍設施更容易被拍攝，因為通常船廠都暴露在戶外，而且多數中國的民用船廠都有軍方的項目。
(2). National spy could be track by CIA system, but how a civil carrying a camera be scout all the time.
國派間諜都被CIA監視著，可帶相機的平民就防不勝防了。
I knew some of those guys are jail by Chinese CIA, they deserved!
據我所知，有幾個家夥（因為幹這事兒）已經被中國情報機關給抓了，罪有應得！（看用詞似乎不太象國內網友，某位正義感很強的印度同誌，還是華人？）
5、open air does not mean that you can't cordon the boundary , Mazadon docks are covered with huge walls so , that no one can peep thru atleast and plus there os no huge skyline near by so that one can be look at thru height .
露天設施並不是都意味著你不能保持警戒，Mazadon船廠就被高牆圍著，至少沒人能輕易偷拍，而且周圍也沒有高層建築，沒人能利用高度往牆裏看。（沒有高層建築……這才是主因吧？ ）
yea they deserved , Chinese CIA beetre also work upon removing theses pics from webpages after all they are responsible for chineses taxpayer
對，他們活該，中國情報機關還忙於清理刪除那些被貼在網上的照片，畢竟他們得對他們的納稅人負責。
6、rockdog, So I suggest you not to post these pics here. Divulge a secret not only include disclosing a secret, but also include spreading a secret. You can find this in China's law.
rockdog，我還是建議你別在這兒鐵這些照片了，泄密不僅包括透露秘密，同時也包括傳播秘密信息，這是中國法律的定義。（猛！印度民間還有通曉中國法律的人！ ）
7、nice, and i'm reliefed newer designs didnt came out
054A has strong air defence, severly lacks ASW.
054A的防空能力很強，可它缺少反潛能力。
8、The biggest progress is the MK41 like VLS (with HQ-16) is completely made and desigend by Chinese own.
最大的進步是船上的垂發（酷似MK41）這回是完全由中國自己設計製造的。
9、damn bastards are leaking out our secrets.... btw hows this have to do with indian navy?
一群混蛋在泄密！！
順便問一下，這些根印度海軍又啥關係？（注意，是our secrets，我們的秘密。看來是某海外華人，而不會是在國內軍壇混的 ）
10、well we discuss about anythin related to navy here、
任何關於海軍的話題我們都討論。
11、rockdog good to see knowledgable chinesde members r here, indeed VLS is a not a joke to make which people thinks just a box.and i dont think it features such as MK41 need its specs.
rockdog你好，能在這（論壇上）看到有見識的中國成員真不錯，確實垂發不是小方盒子那麽簡單，而且像MK41這種的設計我認為他不會占太多空間。（終於出來了一個比較有理智的印度人 ）
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