影雲2007-11-10 21:05:48回複悄悄話
good, my mind is active now:)
what i say neither right nor wrong, is about our viewing/interpreting, but there must be some truth in great art work itself . . .otherwise, they will not be great! i have to say, the world is full of mediocre and imitation . . . “we” view through the being viewed, “we” appreciate through being said . . . “we” need the “physical existence” of being appreciated!
actually, now, "cave paintings" and "ritual potteries" become part of inspiration of OUR TIME! so, they have been carried on . . but, i have to say, inspiration is great, but somehow, not as pure as the first people did . .. because it also framed the mind (a deep struggle too!) . . . yes, what's lost in our age, or any age, is the beginner's mind . . .! that's where the gracefulness comes . . .
~&~2007-11-10 20:47:45回複悄悄話
Truth is too big a topic........
Truth in ART can only be shown ....not told outside the canvas, for example.....
What are we talking about?? :))
To go along with your statements, Who are making the "cave paintings" today? Or the ritual potteries??
by 'Today', i mean our time ......
when i say "knowing nothing", i mean someone's mind is pure and not poluted..... :)) sorry for not be clear ....
影雲2007-11-10 20:43:34回複悄悄話
acutally, i enjoy this kind of deep, personal, and honest discussion . . .thanks!
影雲2007-11-10 20:41:47回複悄悄話
cheers!:) sound i am intoxicated by the Tango
影雲2007-11-10 20:41:15回複悄悄話
nothing right or wrong, but there must be something TRUE . . .
影雲2007-11-10 20:39:48回複悄悄話
e.g. a person can know nothing about technique/skill, but he/she can make graceful pottery . . . but how can you say that there is nothing in his/her mind when he/she do it . . .it is a calling from somewhere unknown . . . we can see from the pottery for rituals , or cave drawings. . . and etc . . . that's what i mean, Infinite . . . we don't know, then, we say it's unknown. . .
~&~2007-11-10 20:37:14回複悄悄話
no one is right or wrong when it comes to viewing ART ....
but yeah, there are ways to use words when one has different perceptions........
cheers
影雲2007-11-10 20:34:13回複悄悄話
you may be right . . . but actually, what he said is enlightening to me too, somehow, when i look into a painting and understand what i lack though drawing/painting . . . so, depends on how a person read it . . . it can be a word game, but, the most important is what we can get out it . . .:)
same to the meaning embedded in "SELF" . . . :)
~&~2007-11-10 20:28:34回複悄悄話
"infinite" is not the word i would choose to describe "Self".....that leads to nowhere in we are
concerned with gracefulness.....
because gracefulness does not come from anyone who knows something is infinite .....
gracefulness can also come from knowing nothing :)
影雲2007-11-10 20:12:06回複悄悄話
actually, "through" should be "into" . . .
影雲2007-11-10 20:08:27回複悄悄話
isn't SELF infinite? :) though the translation can be logically wrong :)
~&~2007-11-10 20:05:04回複悄悄話
"when perception has passed through something infinite, gracefulness appears." . . .
this sounds a little too abstract to apply to making a piece of art ..... because it is not very logical .....
IF there is something infinite, how can one "pass thru" IT?
:)
many people have not "passed thru" themselves, and that might be the reason we humans need ART to get started.....
:))
影雲2007-11-10 19:43:26回複悄悄話
i have no idea about this artist . . . actually, Great art works are always gender-free. . . just like Kleist said "when perception has passed through something infinite, gracefulness appears." . . . so, if there is ability to express whatever you can really "SEE" , that's lucky enough . . .of course, still back to the question, how deeper can you seen? . . .
and , to me, art is a result of "DOING" & "NON-DOING" . . . :)
作舟2007-11-10 16:42:03回複悄悄話
i am not really familiar with M.L.K. or her art.....sounds like you have done some research [?].....
we have no business talking about anyone's "生命最本質的東西" based on the production of some paintings or writings ...... more serious research is needed if one want to talk about that in others ......
~&~2007-11-09 20:07:08回複悄悄話
yes, anyone who is serious about making ART should ask oneself, at certain stage, What is Art?
otherwise, no one would take that stuff seriously.....
abstract art depends a lot on composition .... certain people have better intuitive aesthetical mapping skills....
影雲2007-11-09 15:56:58回複悄悄話
compared to Pollock's pouring paint, i am more in love with Rothko . . . it's a deep calling . . .
students in the advanced classes of my teacher demonstrated techniques for making this type of art work . . .i was speechless (from disappointment . . and doubted about Art!) . . . though i have to admit that the accidental result can be great sometimes . . .dynamic . . .
影雲2007-11-09 15:34:59回複悄悄話
actually, this making process of this type of art made me think what is Art!
i think so too ....... it is interesting for this reason even though it is not the particular inspiring art i can spending time "thinking about"......
z.f.2007-11-08 23:20:47回複悄悄話
現在到處都是抽象,"mixed media on canvas" ...玩得這麽好的著實少有...自由, 激情...最後一張很像一萬五前年前的岩洞畫的色彩, "漫長記憶"...他的情緒的"COMPOSITION"是天生的, 漂亮....喜歡...謝謝分享!!!
影雲2007-11-08 21:33:39回複悄悄話
the original should be very powerful!!!
而且在很多藝術作品裏能"看"到......
很多東西"詩歌─作為─沉默"裏說得很清楚, 如果能說清楚一麵，“對麵”與延伸便好理解。。。
喜愛好的藝術文字於我是因為"共鳴"。。。"共鳴"著"生命最本質的"源"； "無限"(或過去,過去的過去。。。)。。。或單純就是因為"漂亮"，因為"漂亮"有其理, 我不知道什麽叫“GREAT ＡＲＴ”or "GREAT ＧＲＥＡＴ ＡＲＴ"。。。藝術作品的“靈魂”GENDER-FREE， 但細看每個藝術家的所有作品，確實就能看到GENDER的差異，這是不可否認的。。。
"by 'Today', i mean our time ......"
What makes us Human? What is ART? 或許是同一個問題。。。
what i say neither right nor wrong, is about our viewing/interpreting, but there must be some truth in great art work itself . . .otherwise, they will not be great! i have to say, the world is full of mediocre and imitation . . . “we” view through the being viewed, “we” appreciate through being said . . . “we” need the “physical existence” of being appreciated!
actually, now, "cave paintings" and "ritual potteries" become part of inspiration of OUR TIME! so, they have been carried on . . but, i have to say, inspiration is great, but somehow, not as pure as the first people did . .. because it also framed the mind (a deep struggle too!) . . . yes, what's lost in our age, or any age, is the beginner's mind . . .! that's where the gracefulness comes . . .
Truth in ART can only be shown ....not told outside the canvas, for example.....
What are we talking about?? :))
To go along with your statements, Who are making the "cave paintings" today? Or the ritual potteries??
by 'Today', i mean our time ......
when i say "knowing nothing", i mean someone's mind is pure and not poluted..... :)) sorry for not be clear ....
but yeah, there are ways to use words when one has different perceptions........
cheers
same to the meaning embedded in "SELF" . . . :)
concerned with gracefulness.....
because gracefulness does not come from anyone who knows something is infinite .....
gracefulness can also come from knowing nothing :)
this sounds a little too abstract to apply to making a piece of art ..... because it is not very logical .....
IF there is something infinite, how can one "pass thru" IT?
:)
many people have not "passed thru" themselves, and that might be the reason we humans need ART to get started.....
:))
and , to me, art is a result of "DOING" & "NON-DOING" . . . :)
we have no business talking about anyone's "生命最本質的東西" based on the production of some paintings or writings ...... more serious research is needed if one want to talk about that in others ......
but, i like zf's approac in understanding.....
thanks
otherwise, no one would take that stuff seriously.....
abstract art depends a lot on composition .... certain people have better intuitive aesthetical mapping skills....
students in the advanced classes of my teacher demonstrated techniques for making this type of art work . . .i was speechless (from disappointment . . and doubted about Art!) . . . though i have to admit that the accidental result can be great sometimes . . .dynamic . . .
i think so too ....... it is interesting for this reason even though it is not the particular inspiring art i can spending time "thinking about"......