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從下麵在美一方與JosephShen的討論中得出：

JDT即使有聖靈的帶領也不能表現得比非JDT好一點點,　在總體上（或統計學意義上）．

As said by Shen "聖靈的功用是幫助人，但不強迫人。人要學會凡事順從聖靈帶領。"

結果是：聖靈是在幫助人，尤其是JDT, 但他們沒有"學會""順從聖靈帶領".

當然，也有可能如果沒有聖靈的幫助，　JDT　群體會表現的更糟糕．
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• 評價"所有"JDT順從程度很低,這不該是你的風格吧 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• I am not trying to judge, but just reasoning. And if it is the t -belief- ♂ (159 bytes) (9 reads) 4/27/07

If it is the truth, as I said, I accept it no matter how ugly it is.

Of course, here, I reached the conclusion only based on the content of discussion.

• And, I am surprised to 2 JDTs were happy at the end of -belief- ♂ (15 bytes) (9 reads) 4/27/07

the discussion.

• 我們不能忘記已經過去的事情 -comelater- ♀ (325 bytes) (7 reads)
4/27/07

小沈說:"我仍然為在美女士的謙虛誠懇態度喝彩"

之前在美與鄉下人已經對小沈說過
這個賴基呀，總是自己找抽。 -鄉下人進城- ♂
整天價就見你丟醜來著。用趙麗蓉說的話就是放什麽瞅別人。 -在美一方- ♀

麵對這樣的態度討論問題的兩個人,小沈仍舊在說"我仍然為在美女士的謙虛誠懇態度喝彩"

這不是在"順服"神,是什麽??

• 順從聖靈帶領 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• 請注意，我說過是在統計學意義上的． -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• 你這樣說,是否肯定小沈"順從"聖靈帶領呢? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• I am not going to judge a person. Particularly, make judgment -belief- ♂ (17 bytes) (7 reads) 4/27/07

only on one case.

• 回你主貼,你說"所有"JDT,然後解釋說不judge. -comelater- ♀ (16 bytes) (8 reads) 4/27/07

你讓我還說什麽??

• For me, its a reasoning conclusion. And I did not judge any part -belief- ♂ (43 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07

And I did not judge any particular person.

• 那請你以後注意措辭,不要讓讀你主貼的人們有誤解你是在judge -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• and I did not say anything related to "All JDT", only statistica -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• 你談整體的表現,難道不是出於對幾個JDT的judge嗎? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• No, based on the research data for social science community. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• data如何來,不是來源於judge?隻是不來源你的judge罷了 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• data 源於judgment? I have to say, you need basic training -belief- ♂ (98 bytes) (7 reads) 4/27/07

on scientific research.

Ask your husband, if data in his research is from judgment of not

• If he agrees with you on this, he'll be in big trouble. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07
• 你的data是不是表明JDT的整體表現的? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07
• 你認定了一個群體的judge.你的認定不是一種judge嗎? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07
• Also, you see, there is a reason for me to "Sigh", because -belief- ♂ (92 bytes) (7 reads) 4/27/07

they seemed to be satisfied and happy by the end of that discussion.

I only can sigh.

• 這是你的什麽標準?直覺嗎?那他們本應該如何呢? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• That's what they should think about. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• 上麵的貼子,是你自己寫的,你讓他們想,你不想嗎? -comelater- ♀ (36 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• I can push them to think, but can't think for them. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• 你說他們happy不是judge而是push 他們嗎?得...明白了 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07