班農論中美經貿戰和朝核問題

譯者注：這是班農接受羅伯特卡特納（美國瞭望雜誌主編）的電話釆訪的觀點。他對左派雞毛蒜皮的挑事，根本不屑一顧，他隻關注長遠的戰略問題。朝核在軍事上無解，隻有通過貿易倒逼中國解決朝核與中美貿易逆差問題，一石二鳥。從川普最近的動作看，確實釆納了班農的建議。

我們處於與中國的經貿戰爭之中。他們在他們的政策文獻中均提到了這個問題。他們大言不慚地談論他們正在做的事情。在今後25年至30年內，中美必有一方將成為世界霸主。如果我們繼續沉淪下去，將是他們獲勝。關於朝鮮，他們隻想用它牽製我們，陪我們玩遊戲。

關於朝核威脅，無法用軍事手段解決，算了吧！除非我們有辦法解決常規戰爭開始後的30分鍾內首爾一千萬人免遭生靈塗炭的問題。不管你想說什麽，這裏不存在軍事解決的可能性。他們吃定了我們。

對我來說，與中國的經貿戰爭才是頭等大事。我們必須全力以赴地關注這個問題。如果我們繼續輸，我們將隻剩下5年至多10年時間到達一個臨界點，過了這個臨界點，我們再也扳不回來了。

我們必須破釜沉舟背水一戰。我們認為他們在與我們打一場經貿戰爭，正在碾壓我們。

我們正在東亞防禦部門進行人事調整，我要把鷹派人物派過去。我要換掉國務院東亞和太平洋事務部代理主任蘇珊桑頓。

這上麵有爭議，我們每天都爭論。我們還要繼續爭論。財政部與國家經濟委員會主席格瑞科恩之間在爭論，還有高盛集團的遊說。

我們必須釆取行動。這是總統該盡的職責。但是，政府機構正變得不可理喻 。不要誤會，每天都是這樣。

民主黨越是抓住身份認同問題不放，我越能幹倒他們。我希望他們天天爭論種族問題。我們走經濟民族主義路線，打跨民主黨。

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Steven Bannon on Sino-US trade and Korean nuclear threat 

We’re at economic war with China. It’s in all their literature. They’re not shy about saying what they’re doing. One of us is going to be a hegemon in 25 or 30 years and it’s gonna be them if we go down this path. On Korea, they’re just tapping us along. It’s just a sideshow.

 There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.

To me the economic war with China is everything. And we have to be maniacally focused on that. If we continue to lose it, we're five years away, I think, ten years at the most, of hitting an inflection point from which we'll never be able to recover.

We’re going to run the tables on these guys. We’ve come to the conclusion that they’re in an economic war and they’re crushing us.

I’m changing out people at East Asian Defense; I’m getting hawks in. I’m getting Susan Thornton [acting head of East Asian and Pacific Affairs] out at State.

That’s a fight I fight every day here. We’re still fighting. There’s Treasury and [National Economic Council chair] Gary Cohn and Goldman Sachs lobbying.

We gotta do this. The president’s default position is to do it, but the apparatus is going crazy. Don’t get me wrong. It’s like, every day.

The Democrats, the longer they talk about identity politics, I got ’em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.