普京在今天的問答會中無意透露了鵝毛真實傷亡，和西方及烏克蘭的估計大致相同

Russia lost 360,000 people in the war, according to Putin

 

244k mobilized. 486k volunteers. And there are only 617k at the front. Interesting military mathematics from Putin.

 

Even so, it turns out that the losses were 113k people. But there was also the invasion group and those who were recruited before mobilization. And this is around 250k. That is, Putin literally admitted irretrievable losses in the amount of 363k people. And this takes into account those allegedly mobilized due to age (40k people) - according to his own words.

 

 

Based on various figures given by Putin, military analyst Yan Matveyev says the president has essentially admitted to Russian losses of around 363,000 in Ukraine*****CDsqEOy8V6

— Francis Scarr (@francis_scarr) December 14, 2023

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• 西方和烏克蘭兩者的估計差遠了 -fatpigpiggy- ♂ (145 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:00:58

• 我認為是喪失作戰能力 -cbam_user- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:06:50

• 西方估計的是下限, 畢竟他們不在戰場, 隻能保守估計, 免得被人要證據拿不出。烏克蘭是從各戰場匯總, 非常準確。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:10:13

• 如果加上從俄國內部調來的, 從俄在世界各地駐軍調來的, 就會發現烏克蘭的數字才對。 如果不是駐軍減少,俄國不會連亞美尼亞 -咲媱- ♀ (202 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:12:21

• 如果不是駐軍減少,俄國不會連敘利亞, 亞美尼亞, 中亞斯坦國, 都控製不了。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:14:24

• 這些駐軍幾十萬, 就憑空消失了, 哪裏去了? -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:16:03

• 這幾十萬是征兵之外的數字。 普京說的, 是征兵部分的損失。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:17:50

• 優秀男人全戰死, 留下老弱病殘, 俄族的基因會變得越來越弱 -紅塵- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:32:01

• 這不就是普京要用十五年, 給你的新俄羅斯? 逆世界發展方向而走, 能有什麽好下場。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:36:08

• 獨裁者不下台,拖死獨裁政權, 獨裁政權不下台, 拖死國家, 國家賴著不滅亡, 拖死民族。包袱越背越大。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:38:48

• 你可移民莫斯科呀... -紅塵- ♂ (167 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:40:23

• 我就在歐美, 拿著咖啡, 慢慢的看戲, 看他們一步步的走向深淵 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:44:36

• 歐美日澳這麽大, 幾百年都玩不完, 莫斯科這種垃圾地方就不會去了, 永遠不會去。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 14:32:49

• 還少算了從俄羅斯以及世界其他地方調去的俄軍, 比如駐紮北極的部隊, 陣亡一半。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:02:01

• 還有原來駐紮亞美尼亞,敘利亞等地的俄軍, 都是有減少, 全部填入了烏克蘭。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:02:47

• 還有瓦格那和風包Z, 是不計入俄軍的。所以死亡還要多。 -咲媱- ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:02:47

• 363k losses, killed vs killed+wounded -紅塵- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:09:12

• 我一直把烏方的數字理解為喪失作戰能力 -cbam_user- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:11:08

• 這樣話, 363K這數字make sense -紅塵- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/14/2023 postreply 13:15:40

• 完全不考慮輪替和前幾個月的退休嗎？ -thrawn- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/15/2023 postreply 14:31:30

• 普裏格金說過瓦格納是簽六個月合同，六個月之後可以走人，除非你自己為了錢不走 -天青水藍- ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023 postreply 06:29:46