川普 vs. 希拉莉 = 三五年的民生 vs.三五十年的民主和民權

不管結果如何，這次大選是美國政黨的失敗：因為兩大黨各自推出這麽爛的候選人！

既然兩個人誰都不會好到哪裏去，是不是選誰都一樣或者幹脆棄權？非也！要比比worst case scenario: 如果Hillary當選，可能會維持現狀，民主黨那一套，窮人養得更懶… ；可是如果Trump當選，我們最終可能丟掉民權，女權，… 要知道Trump的鐵杆粉絲是紅脖子白人男性redneck white males，這些人極端保守，崇尚白人至上，好些是kkk成員。是的，Trump可能開始會給你減點稅，讓你多分一口(原本民主黨給非裔西裔的)蛋糕，可是慢慢地你可能會失掉分蛋糕的權利，隻因為你的膚色，種族、性別、或者政治信仰。不要以為今天你聰明過人了，混上中產階級，擠上了紅脖子白人公交車就跟著一起哄叫快關門，正是這些你支持過的白人可以叫你讓座或者幹脆把你踢下車去！你我可能在今後三五年裏得到略有改善的民生，但我們的後代可能在今後三五十年經曆惡化的民主和民權！不要在口口聲聲說不忘初心的同時又時時刻刻算計著錢袋子！不但要用你精明的頭腦去投票，更要用你的良心和靈魂。

Trump所代表的是極端自私自利，鑽係統的空子(屢次破產保護，連年偷避稅),他不可能領導人民改善係統。美國國門仍然是最難進的幾個，移民並沒有像Trump所說的那樣失控而需要圍牆高築。紅脖子白人大反非法移民，卻又懶得從事非法移民所做的工作。事實上很大程度上正是非法移民和前些年廉價的中國造產品維持了這些紅脖子白人的體麵。這是一大群被現代經濟逐漸淘汰的美國人，他們仍希望在工廠裏擰扳手或開個小店能保住中產階級地位，還可以玩槍打獵，殊不知在全球經濟體製下這已是曆史！

捫心自問：你真的喜歡擁護Trump嗎？一個口無遮攔(的確很率直)淩辱女性被一群紅脖子白人擁戴的瘋子？充其量他是一個運氣好的投機分子，一個賭徒，賭房地產靠破產保護他幾次起死回生，賭reality show他賺了眼球和免費publicity，這次是他畢生的最後一賭！
所以，選Hillary大不了忍4年，選Trump你最後可能在美國死無葬身之地，這些你緊跟其後的紅脖子白人上台之後哪一天會回過頭來：滾回你的出生地！

但不管結果如何，這次大選依然是民主、民權的勝利：因為不論膚色、種族、性別、信仰，你我尚且還有權利自由地投票來表達意願！也許我們在自掘墳墓慢慢喪失這個權利！不能見小利忘大義！更不能自掘墳墓！

[WeThePeople]

回複 'villa1912' 的評論 : We are in a democracy, not a mob society/Culture Revolution. Bring your points on. Focus on the message, not the messenger.

[WeThePeople]

沈兄，你的假設是製度不變，川普身後的白人至上主義者大軍會同意嗎？今天你是他的同盟軍可以坐一條凳子，想想明天他們上台之後吧？也許他們會拿黑人先開刀，但殃及池魚。想想看不太久以前，我們連投票權都不會有，談何政策？我不太在乎川普的人品，但恐懼他身後的白人至上主義者大軍！謝謝你的討論。

[沈成涵]

@WeThePeople

----不認為選了川普美國會亂，美國有良好的體製，是製度治國，而不是人治，所以不會亂。關起門來搞好自己的經濟才是重點，經濟好了，什麽問題都能解決。拳頭收回來是為了更有力的打出去。此時的美國選擇川普，正符合一張一弛的客觀規律。

[沈成涵]

萬得福 發表評論於 2016-11-07 05:41:59雖然希拉裏說謊、賣官、違法、作偽證、銷毀證據、賣國...但川普十年前私下跟人吹噓過玩弄女性啊！！！

----大家都不是完美的候選人！但是川普的問題是個人的私德；希拉裏的錯誤是公職期間的職務犯罪。沒有可比性！

[villa1912]

who is this wethepeople person? He/she behave like a philibuster. It does not mean you are correct if you talk more.????

[WeThePeople]

By now the election should be over as everyone should have made their mind.

Thank you all for stopping by. I started my very 1st blog since my comments on other people's blogs were mostly deleted - that tells who has more supporters on WXC :) But I swear I did not delete a single comment here! And I do appreciate both sides of opinions and most importantly the participation of fellow Chinese in this election which we may remember for life. We shall honor whatever the outcome this may bring!

Btw I can't (or very slow ^^) type in Chinese on PC. And the iPhone App does not seem to allow me to respond. So I responded in English on PC even though Chinese would still be more precise as our native language :)

May Gob Bless all!

[WeThePeople]

回複 '大號螞蟻' 的評論 : Unfortunately it is a difficult choice between revolution and reform. China has gone through revolutions for thousands of 'glorious' years vs. Western civilization went through party rotation since French Revolution(?). It is irresponsible to smash the current system without a decent replacement. That is what US did in mid-eastern countries in recent years by overthrowing governments they don't like but who to suffer?

[大號螞蟻]

黨的錯誤就是不可取代。嗬嗬。

[WeThePeople]

回複 '沈成涵' 的評論 : I fully understand the anti-establishment sentiment as I share that view often too. But what to replace? Who will become the most miserable victims in a chaotic society with no government/everyone wave fists/guns? it will be us, the minorities in US. So I am selfish in that sense. Make no mistake - capitalism does recognize/allow selfishness (vs. communism). But that is individual's right. No governments would/should promote the selfishness. Any governments would have to play some leveling playground role to govern. As I mentioned earlier, we would have to go to a Safari to enjoy absolute individualism/selfishness :)

[WeThePeople]

回複 'jndydkt' 的評論 : I am sorry you are upsetting. The only regret is that I should not have quoted on Trump's gross words on treating women. I saw just the opposite that Trump followers threw trash talks/threatening remarks as one of the reviewers early had to praise the courage for posting my views here :) I am no fan of HC. To me, HC is a bad choice but Trump is a dangerous choice for non-whites. It's philosophical difference (that I see) than tactical/policy difference (that you try to seek).

[WeThePeople]

回複 'Berrylover' 的評論 : Any civilized society has some kind of level-playground policies unless we move to a Safari :) It is an integral part of civilization to differentiate human from animals. Do you really want to go back to the old American society of segregation? That's what white supremacists want. Back in days, did we all have have the same chance to go into Peking U/Tshinghua U than people in Beijing and currently? By the way, the gold will shine no matter where it is placed.

[WeThePeople]

回複 'nasastar' 的評論 : Unfortunately they are all we have on the ballot :)

[大海大洋]

分析有理，值得深思。

[nasastar]

我們要真普選，不要兩個爛番薯中挑個好點的。

[Berrylover]

為我們華裔子女能獲得公平上大學的權利，堅決不選民主黨。

[萬得福]

雖然希拉裏說謊、賣官、違法、作偽證、銷毀證據、賣國...但川普十年前私下跟人吹噓過玩弄女性啊！！！

[Tiger666]

小兒科的東西！不值一駁！

[降魔]

在以索羅斯為核心，以希拉裏為代表的，以克林頓基金會為主的邪惡勢力們，

其無數反對者，不斷被自殺後……

FBI不得不選擇，

妥協於美國政治的黑暗！

自稱“FBI”的用戶預言大部分成真 震驚的背脊發涼！(圖/視頻)

http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2016/10/29/5725152.html

[LA1991]

Great article, someone who has a brain.

[青海]

在接到傳票之後，把相關證據都銷毀了，已經構成犯罪，若是一般人，不可能不被逮捕，而希拉裏就可以置於法律之上。那些包庇、保護希拉裏的人，也構成了犯罪。

一個罪犯，沒有被投入監獄，卻要當總統，已經是對這個民主製度的極大羞辱。

美國已經墮落了，昨天奧巴馬公然在電視上號召非法移民出來投票，今天FBI局長科米急急忙忙宣布維持原來的結論，可以想象，他必定是在巨大壓力下做出這個宣布的。

[沈成涵]

每個社會都有一張用不成文的規則織成的網，比如政治是如何運作的、公眾如何建立共識，特朗普打亂了這個規則。如果特朗普獲勝，共和黨和民主黨都必須回到起點，反思自己。這或許會帶來一些不同。所以特朗普是“絕望中的希望”，雖然特朗普的言論比較偏激，但他上台後絕不會讓美國走上獨裁之路。而希拉裏拉攏各派，建立了一個根本不可能存在的“聯盟”，她是真正的頑固分子、冷戰分子，她才是真正的危險。

[沈成涵]

自私不是崇高的理念，但還是比“不患寡而患不均”這種平均主義來的安全。希拉裏的政治正確完全就是美式毛主義！希拉裏拉著黑人、西裔、穆斯林大吃美國大鍋飯，這才是真正在掘美國的根基。

[沈成涵]

自私不是崇高的理念，但還是比“不患寡而患不均”這種平均主義來的安全。希拉裏的政治正確完全就是美式毛主義！希拉裏拉著黑人、西裔、穆斯林大吃美國大鍋飯，這才是真正在掘美國的根基。

[villa1912]

要說人品，喜姐的flaw更是多了去了。在這裏就不陳敘了。但從政策理念上來講，Trump還是順民意的。

[jndydkt]

"希粉們除了無知無畏，還有不少是滿嘴噴糞文革式流氓，隻要別人觀點看法不一，就開罵，有些完全是順我者昌，逆我者亡的架勢，還有一些就是外國勢力沒投票權的，也夾在一起為希拉裏鼓噪搖旗呐喊，如她當選，真的難以想像美國會變成什麽樣子"。太有同感，真是人以群分！

[WeThePeople]

回複 'villa1912' 的評論 : have you seen the video Trump talking about groping women/grabbing women on their genitals and kissing (against their will)? Is that decent? Would you send your daughter or sister to work for Trump by his side? I do sympathize those redneck whites who lost jobs/their dignity in global economy. Government should help/they should catch up. And I understand they put blames on government and new immigrants, part of rural redneck american's tradition. But we can't handle the power to those.

[WeThePeople]

回複 'lanlandehu' 的評論 : seems you are suffering typical Chinese 'conspiracy' syndome :) Even IF Hillary had committed a crime on email server, was it a premeditated crime on purpose or was it merely careless mistake? Don't just use mouth to gossip, use brain to think :)

[villa1912]

Trump是個生意人，也是見過世麵的，不會像你說得這麽不堪吧。那些生活在中下層的白人在全球化的影響下生活大不如以前。心情是可以理解的。正是他們的基督治國精神才包容了世界各地的移民。

再說我不認為Congress會對象AA，男女同廁有多大的幫助。這可是影響我們子孫幾代的大事。

[lanlandehu]

韓國的總統樸槿惠閨蜜事件引發韓國人民要求樸槿惠下台。韓國的檢察院已經逮捕了樸槿惠閨蜜崔順實。向韓國的檢察官致敬。希拉裏在FBI發傳票後果然刪除3萬多份郵件，砸毀所有的電子設備。希拉裏的行為已經是違法。可是她大搖大擺地還在一個號稱世界最民主自由，司法最公正的燈塔國競選總統，這是多大的諷刺。美國的司法機關已經淪為黑金政治的工具。America is sick !

[WeThePeople]

回複 'villa1912' 的評論 : Don't forget about the Congress! It would not confirm any extremely out of touch liberal nominees. We also don't want to see diehard conservative judges as well. Clinton may continue on some bad policies of Democrats vs. Trump/redneck whites may revert the entire modern-day civiliazation - civil liberty/civil rights(Minority rights), women's right.

[villa1912]

OMG! On the contrary. 如果親民主黨的大法官被選上，那才是幾十年的影響。

[WeThePeople]

回複 'vesper' 的評論 : Democracy/civil liberty IS NOT All as you wish. The ordeal we are in is exactly part of democracy/civil liberty. Under dictatorship/authoritarian as Trump admired of Putin/Hitler, certain ethnic groups such as Chinese Americans might have been completely prohibited from participating as century ago!

[君雪]

讚、讚、讚。道理簡單得很。

[vesper]

"三五十年的民主和民權"
O8醫保有你的民主民權嗎？奧巴馬廁所令你的民主民權在那呢?一旦巫婆上台任命幾個左派大法官，你就等著被合法的宰割吧。

[愛吃海蠣煎]

讚

[GS224]

支持樓主的觀點。川普搞的是種族主義，3K黨喜歡的東西。 在這樣的統治下，膚色決定一切。白人至上，什麽也別說了， 華人這張臉就輸了。

[WeThePeople]

回複 'Staytrues' 的評論 : Exactly. I hoped Trump played the craziness to win the primary in the party and would show decent human decency/somewhat presidential in the general election. But turned out he is the same exact mad man - a postal child for redneck white males.

[Staytrues]

我也不喜歡民主黨的很多主張像AA，男人女人可同廁等。但是川普上台，我們華人的人生安全可要成問題了。紅脖子是不管你華人是川粉還是希飯，都是奪他們飯碗的人，都該死。

[senway]

支持一個罪犯還要說得這麽高大上。

[tmasquerade]

明智

[bhxxhd]

其實道理就這麽簡單，支持！

[童謠]

非常同意。值得深思。

[pcboy888]

讚樓主勇氣，敢在文學城發帖說川普壞話！

[yamiao]

點100個讚！咱不能因為一小撮人集體抽風就忘了自己從哪裏來，族群的利益到底在哪裏。

[人間的盒子]

回複 'weibao' 的評論 : 懶得看他們，愛誰當誰當。

[weibao]

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人間的盒子 發表評論於 2016-11-06 14:04:15

但很多人是對現狀不滿，在中國對中國不滿，到美國對美國也不滿，走到哪吵到哪。

[文取心]

如果你認為希拉裏這條蛀蟲當政比較好，這條蛀蟲就永遠會盤踞在你腦子裏。

[人間的盒子]

我同意希拉裏上台完全可以象以前一樣，她都在政壇三十年了，白宮也呆過，再當四年總統又何妨。

但很多人是對現狀不滿，在中國對中國不滿，到美國對美國也不滿，走到哪吵到哪。