以下是Omar她本人說的,她對911的看法:
"Those [9/11] are horrific attacks. There's no question about it, that's not a debatable thing. Innocent Americans lost their lives that day, we all mourn their deaths ... And I think it's quite disgusting that people even question that and want to debate that."
見:https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2019/07/ilhan-omar-911-comments-trump-saudi-relations-190716160539559.html
And, yes. I too, am disappointed, that facts, reason, and logic had no effect on you.
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回複 'Chalet' 的評論 : HCC就是在詭辯,你就不再搭理它了,他連文字都讀不懂,顛倒黑白指鹿為馬,就是一個非法滯留的腦殘,拿不上綠卡氣急敗壞,讓 Moron love himself !
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回複 'HCC' 的評論 : 我說的是MSL和伊斯蘭世界,不是她的國家來源,你懂的,再挖就有狡辯之嫌了。最後一次回複你,move on 吧,討論得也差不多了
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回複 'HCC' 的評論 : 你是睜眼說瞎話,為豬黨洗地也不能這麽不要臉,你這個孫子看不懂還是裝傻子,誰說AOC和他哥生子,句號你這個孫子都看不懂嗎?你就別在這裏裝傻充愣滿嘴CNN的腳本啦。Omar熱愛美國?you are bullshit ! Omar would have already lost her head in the Middle East. The US govt at taxpayers expense rescued her ass of from a spot where she had fewer rights than vermine. If Omar thinks she has made a bad move, nobody will interfere with her nobody will stop her from returning to the Sithole of her choice. Maybe you can join her in going to the Somali camp. Hopefully soon and you won't have to be concerned with websites like this. Your kind are not popular there. Maybe wave some Chinese flags on the street. GO LOVE YOURSELF !
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回複 'HCC' 的評論 : “you do not need to smear her and frame her for something she is not. ”
Sorry to disappoint you, HCC. I was just quoting what you quoted.
I do not smear or frame anybody. But if you say something, you better know what you mean. Especially if on record.
人總要對自己說的話負責吧?她說了啥,她自己負責。您老去給洗地?洗不幹淨,就來罵我?我哪句話smear her and frame her? 敬請舉例。
>>>If you buy the lip service, it is your freedom to do so. But it does not give me a reason to respect your intellect.
No.
If you want to fabricate misinformation, and believe in distorted political propaganda, sure, that is entirely your choice. Nonetheless, it does not change the reality:
Ilhan Omar is not anti-America, whatsoever.
You don’t need to agree with her political views. You don't need to vote for her or follow her. But, at a minimum, you do not need to smear her and frame her for something she is not.
I thought you are a person who is capable of reason and logic. Apparently, I was mistaken.
也是Omar她本人說的,她熱愛美國:
"I believe, as an immigrant, I probably love this country more than anyone that is naturally born,” Omar said."
“No lies will stamp out my love for this country or my resolve to make our union more perfect,” she said.
後來來美國後我看了一本小書(小說),waiting for the rain, by Sheila Gordon, 就是講 South Africa當時黑白之間的矛盾:一對好朋友,一白一黑,一起在白孩叔叔家的農場長大,之後黑孩意識到了自己地位的低下,意欲改變現狀,開始投身革命參加暴動,而白孩則被征入伍成為白人政府的軍警一員,鎮壓暴動...之後他們在一次暴動中認出了對方,寫得太感人了,我黑白兩邊都比較同情,如果有興趣你可以看看,讓自己有些感性認識 ...Cover 上寫道:
In the grip of South Africa apartheid, can this friendship Survive?
離開南部非洲之後,我再沒有關注過那些國家,覺得他們是無解難題
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讚好文!
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HCC 發表評論於 2019-07-19 16:56:14 Omar她說的是: ... “CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”
您老,那麽Omar的立場還不明顯嗎?CAIR(Council of American-Islamic Relations)認為some people did something。您老認為Omar是同意CAIR這個說法,還是譴責這個說法?
In post-apartheid South Africa, unemployment has been extremely high as the country has struggled with many changes. While many blacks have risen to middle or upper classes, the overall unemployment rate of black people worsened between 1994 and 2003 by official metrics, but declined significantly using expanded definitions.
的確,用不同的標準來測量,會得出迥然相異的失業率的結論
Poverty among whites, previously rare, increased.[63] In addition, the current government has struggled to achieve the monetary and fiscal discipline to ensure both redistribution of wealth and economic growth. The United Nations (UN) Human Development Index (HDI) of South Africa fell from 1995 to 2005, while it was steadily rising until the mid-1990s,[64] before recovering its 1995 peak in 2013.[65] This is in large part attributable to the South African HIV/AIDS pandemic which saw South African life expectancy fall from a high point of 62.25 years in 1992 to a low of 52.57 in 2005,[66] and the failure of the government to take steps to address it in the early years.[67]
In May 2008, riots left over 60 people dead.[68] The Centre on Housing Rights and Evictions estimates over 100,000 people were driven from their homes.[69] The targets were mainly legal and illegal migrants and refugees seeking asylum, but a third of the victims were South African citizens.[68]
看這一個2008年騷亂的例子,60人死亡,10萬人被從自己的家裏驅趕,唉...
In a 2006 survey, the South African Migration Project concluded that South Africans are more opposed to immigration than anywhere else in the world.[70] The UN High Commissioner for Refugees in 2008 reported over 200,000 refugees applied for asylum in South Africa, almost four times as many as the year before.
回複 'HCC' 的評論 : 別在這裏胡噴了你,MSL恐怖分子用了五架飛機撞毀雙塔、五角大樓,死亡數千人還有多少個家庭遭遇了滅頂之災。那個MSL奧瑪微笑說“someone did something”what the f**k ???"這是US Congress disgusted with this b*t*h.這些真相事實就是證明了她懷恨美國,是MSL恐怖分子在美國的代理人,反對她們都是有原因的,她們阻擾ice抓捕有犯罪前科的非法移民,鼓動anti—America,燒毀美國國旗,破壞Law and Order等等,那是因為她們隻反對老川?就你的這些月經貼都是CNN的腳本,別在這裏渾水摸魚了,現在沉默的大多數都開始放發聲了,你就別在這裏現眼了。
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回複 '有問求解' 的評論 : 謝謝你對民權運動的詳細法律補充!很驚豔
HCC 發表評論於
>>>Ilhan Omar on 911: some people did something...
Omar她說的是:
“Far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it,” Omar said at the event. “CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”
她說的沒錯 - 不過被人暗算扭解了她的話好用來打擊她。她本人要說的完全是另一回事。
見: Column: No, CNN, Rep. Ilhan Omar did not minimize 9/11
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fi-hiltzik-ilhan-omar-9-11-20190416-story.html
又見:Republicans are taking Ilhan Omar’s comments on 9/11 out of context to smear her
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/11/18306436/ilhan-omar-911-islamophobia-republicans
So, USA's political policy must be balanced to keep it strong enough, unless you want to make USA to be another Venezuela today. 100%, No, 120% of agree with the view of the article.
要說抑製極端主義的膨脹,可以理解。但是完全沒有用到帶有種族主義歧視性言論的需要。叫人Go back to where you came from 是聯邦政府認定,可構成 harassment 的行為。有空麻煩看看聯邦政府EEOC對反歧視法的解釋(https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/immigrants-facts.cfm)。
關於第二點,左派在Civil Right Movement的作用,可以說是貪功。事實上是全民性的糾偏,而不是所謂的左派發起,回歸到1789年共和黨全票通過,民主黨一票未投的憲法第15修正案:所有美國公民有同等的投票權利!所以,1964年通過的,是Civil Right Act,而不是憲法修正案,其根基是完全立足於15修正案的。這得感謝1789年的共和黨!
15修正案是南北戰爭後伴隨著13(廢奴),14(當時主要是針對黑人,賦予美國管轄的出生公民權)修正案而製定的,是美國黑人徹底翻身的憲法根基!這三大修正案中,共和黨幾乎全票通過,而民主黨三大修正案統共隻投下兩票支持!之所以15修正案自1789年到1964年沒有被踐行,完全拜民主黨所賜(在此期間,主黨通過了Jim Crow Law, Segregation)!
回頭再看Civil Right Act的投票支持率,共和黨以82%(左右)的支持率完勝民主黨的63%(左右)。